Advice on Aman style alternative in the Caribbean
Oct 3, 2018, 1:54 pm
#1
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Advice on Aman style alternative in the Caribbean
Hi All,
Im looking to get out next week for 3 nights. I was going to go to Amanera, the issue is they are closed for another month ;(
My requirements are:
- One easy flight out of NYC area (or PHL) with no crazy long drive to the resort since we only have 2-3 days to get away (with travel time).
- Modern, and service should be on par or close to an Aman.
- On NICE beach grounds, with a private pool (unless we are taking Amanpulo style nature then can be fine with just beachfront access, which I dont think exists near us)
Been to Jumby Bay and Parrot Cay, dont love hard product (rooms) at all. And very not modern anyhow. Loved loved Parrot Cay beach, but rest was a turn off. Been to Puerto Rico Dorado, hotel nice but beach terrible.
I have been to Amanyara before, probably my next go to of what Im familiar with- but dont love as much as Era as it doesnt have that view and pool combo. Also, I dont love the timing of the flights, but if no other ideas I am likely to go back there.
Anyone that can help with any ideas, would be appreciated!
Im looking to get out next week for 3 nights. I was going to go to Amanera, the issue is they are closed for another month ;(
My requirements are:
- One easy flight out of NYC area (or PHL) with no crazy long drive to the resort since we only have 2-3 days to get away (with travel time).
- Modern, and service should be on par or close to an Aman.
- On NICE beach grounds, with a private pool (unless we are taking Amanpulo style nature then can be fine with just beachfront access, which I dont think exists near us)
Been to Jumby Bay and Parrot Cay, dont love hard product (rooms) at all. And very not modern anyhow. Loved loved Parrot Cay beach, but rest was a turn off. Been to Puerto Rico Dorado, hotel nice but beach terrible.
I have been to Amanyara before, probably my next go to of what Im familiar with- but dont love as much as Era as it doesnt have that view and pool combo. Also, I dont love the timing of the flights, but if no other ideas I am likely to go back there.
Anyone that can help with any ideas, would be appreciated!
Oct 3, 2018, 2:00 pm
#2
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Hi All,
Im looking to get out next week for 3 nights. I was going to go to Amanera, the issue is they are closed for another month ;(
My requirements are:
- One easy flight out of NYC area (or PHL) with no crazy long drive to the resort since we only have 2-3 days to get away (with travel time).
- Modern, and service should be on par or close to an Aman.
- On NICE beach grounds, with a private pool (unless we are taking Amanpulo style nature then can be fine with just beachfront access, which I dont think exists near us)
Been to Jumby Bay and Parrot Cay, dont love hard product (rooms) at all. And very not modern anyhow. Loved loved Parrot Cay beach, but rest was a turn off. Been to Puerto Rico Dorado, hotel nice but beach terrible.
I have been to Amanyara before, probably my next go to of what Im familiar with- but dont love as much as Era as it doesnt have that view and pool combo. Also, I dont love the timing of the flights, but if no other ideas I am likely to go back there.
Anyone that can help with any ideas, would be appreciated!
Im looking to get out next week for 3 nights. I was going to go to Amanera, the issue is they are closed for another month ;(
My requirements are:
- One easy flight out of NYC area (or PHL) with no crazy long drive to the resort since we only have 2-3 days to get away (with travel time).
- Modern, and service should be on par or close to an Aman.
- On NICE beach grounds, with a private pool (unless we are taking Amanpulo style nature then can be fine with just beachfront access, which I dont think exists near us)
Been to Jumby Bay and Parrot Cay, dont love hard product (rooms) at all. And very not modern anyhow. Loved loved Parrot Cay beach, but rest was a turn off. Been to Puerto Rico Dorado, hotel nice but beach terrible.
I have been to Amanyara before, probably my next go to of what Im familiar with- but dont love as much as Era as it doesnt have that view and pool combo. Also, I dont love the timing of the flights, but if no other ideas I am likely to go back there.
Anyone that can help with any ideas, would be appreciated!
Oct 3, 2018, 2:14 pm
#3
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Posts: 476
Hmm. Flights are just about same as Turks. I can do this, but not sure if better overall vs Amanyara. Have you been to both and able to compare pros and cons? If there are any pros here.....
Oct 3, 2018, 2:29 pm
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I have never been to Yara, but been to plenty other Aman properties. I wouldn't put the Rosewood quite in the same league but it is no doubt a great property.
Sorry thought you had removed Yara from consideration and were looking for something similar. I would probably just stick with Yara based on all your considerations.
Sorry thought you had removed Yara from consideration and were looking for something similar. I would probably just stick with Yara based on all your considerations.
Oct 3, 2018, 3:00 pm
#7
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Yara is undergoing lots of changes right now. If you are picky, avoid it until there’s at least a manager. Plus, it’s a villa place and it’s frankly silly to book their regular rooms there. I say this as someone who booked one of their regular rooms. It’s like booking the broomstick closet at a four seasons.
The new mo in the grenedines is on my list.
for something high end, besvisor reviewed the enclave in Turks.
The new mo in the grenedines is on my list.
for something high end, besvisor reviewed the enclave in Turks.
Oct 3, 2018, 3:12 pm
#8
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Yara is undergoing lots of changes right now. If you are picky, avoid it until there’s at least a manager. Plus, it’s a villa place and it’s frankly silly to book their regular rooms there. I say this as someone who booked one of their regular rooms. It’s like booking the broomstick closet at a four seasons.
The new mo in the grenedines is on my list.
for something high end, besvisor reviewed the enclave in Turks.
The new mo in the grenedines is on my list.
for something high end, besvisor reviewed the enclave in Turks.
Eclave looks like large villas, Im only a couple and dont need 4 bedrooms, or the price of it
The Grenadines looks hot, but is that worth the schlep to go there for a 2 night or max 3 night stay? Does the MO really put the Aamanyara to shame? Anyone been there or others in the region to compare?
Oct 3, 2018, 3:51 pm
#9
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Well, I don’t know as I’ve never been. If it were me I’d only look at direct flights and nothing else.
i think amanyara delivers about 10% more than other places at 2x the price. Horrible value proposition for me. That and it’s isolated isn’t my cup of tea unless you really like eating on site/breakfast buffets. the place is in limbo with staff and underinvested right now means I’d avoid it unless you’re really into hotel conglomerates.
Id look at a high endish home rental. Imagine the feeling and privacy of your own place with the freedom to go to restaurants and bars, meet ppl and listen to music. But that’s just my take.
i think amanyara delivers about 10% more than other places at 2x the price. Horrible value proposition for me. That and it’s isolated isn’t my cup of tea unless you really like eating on site/breakfast buffets. the place is in limbo with staff and underinvested right now means I’d avoid it unless you’re really into hotel conglomerates.
Id look at a high endish home rental. Imagine the feeling and privacy of your own place with the freedom to go to restaurants and bars, meet ppl and listen to music. But that’s just my take.
Oct 3, 2018, 4:32 pm
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FS nevis has new contemporary residences, via st kitts airport
rosewood mayakoba includes brand new residences
aman.com/resorts/amanyara/pavilions/amanyara-pavilion
banyan tree mayakoba - spa, beachside, beachfront
kiawah island south carolina - premier ocean view homes
if budget, villas at FS (ex O&O) ocean club bahamas
i would recommend considering more than nonstop
including for example something different reopening >
Possibly the last real hideaway in the Caribbean
rosewood mayakoba includes brand new residences
aman.com/resorts/amanyara/pavilions/amanyara-pavilion
banyan tree mayakoba - spa, beachside, beachfront
kiawah island south carolina - premier ocean view homes
if budget, villas at FS (ex O&O) ocean club bahamas
i would recommend considering more than nonstop
including for example something different reopening >
Possibly the last real hideaway in the Caribbean
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Oct 3, 2018 at 4:51 pm
Oct 3, 2018, 4:56 pm
#11
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FS nevis has new contemporary residences, via st kitts airport
rosewood mayakoba includes brand new residences
aman.com/resorts/amanyara/pavilions/amanyara-pavilion
banyan tree mayakoba - spa, beachside, beachfront
kiawah island south carolina - premier ocean view homes
if budget, villas at FS (ex O&O) ocean club bahamas
i would recommend considering more than nonstop
including for example something different reopening >
Possibly the last real hideaway in the Caribbean
rosewood mayakoba includes brand new residences
aman.com/resorts/amanyara/pavilions/amanyara-pavilion
banyan tree mayakoba - spa, beachside, beachfront
kiawah island south carolina - premier ocean view homes
if budget, villas at FS (ex O&O) ocean club bahamas
i would recommend considering more than nonstop
including for example something different reopening >
Possibly the last real hideaway in the Caribbean
Thanks. The last one too far, and also doesnt look modern at all. We love modern feel. South Carolina, doesnt look our taste at all, and I doubt the beach is anything good, may as well go to somewhere nice in Florida. No?
So maybe mayakoba, which of the properties there are nicest overall? And does it beat Amanyara convenience of being closer and having better service and all?
Oct 3, 2018, 5:02 pm
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premier ocean view homes, one $11m, some contemporary exteriors, kiawah are only hotel managed etc beachfront in US, none in FL, but not sure how beach compares to dorado etc
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/pinneys_beach/
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/belmont_and_stewarts/
fourseasons.com/oceanclub/accommodations/villa-residences/three-bedroom-villa-residence/
in california there is new nobu ryokan
you mentioned aman and amanpulo
there is no real reason to consider other than yara, especially linked 1BR (rate = ?)
personally i liked necker island when low occupancy, not sure re beaches
also not sure whether any of sold moskito homes are contemporary etc
to me, ideal beachfront is lacking all over world, but especially in north america
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/pinneys_beach/
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/belmont_and_stewarts/
fourseasons.com/oceanclub/accommodations/villa-residences/three-bedroom-villa-residence/
in california there is new nobu ryokan
you mentioned aman and amanpulo
there is no real reason to consider other than yara, especially linked 1BR (rate = ?)
personally i liked necker island when low occupancy, not sure re beaches
also not sure whether any of sold moskito homes are contemporary etc
to me, ideal beachfront is lacking all over world, but especially in north america
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Oct 3, 2018 at 5:08 pm
Oct 3, 2018, 5:21 pm
#13
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premier ocean view homes, one $11m, some contemporary exteriors, kiawah are only hotel managed etc beachfront in US, none in FL, but not sure how beach compares to dorado etc
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/pinneys_beach/
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/belmont_and_stewarts/
fourseasons.com/oceanclub/accommodations/villa-residences/three-bedroom-villa-residence/
in california there is new nobu ryokan
you mentioned aman and amanpulo
there is no real reason to consider other than yara, especially linked 1BR (rate = ?)
personally i liked necker island when low occupancy, not sure re beaches
also not sure whether any of sold moskito homes are contemporary etc
to me, ideal beachfront is lacking all over world, but especially in north america
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/pinneys_beach/
caribbeanvillas.fourseasons.com/nevis_villas/belmont_and_stewarts/
fourseasons.com/oceanclub/accommodations/villa-residences/three-bedroom-villa-residence/
in california there is new nobu ryokan
you mentioned aman and amanpulo
there is no real reason to consider other than yara, especially linked 1BR (rate = ?)
personally i liked necker island when low occupancy, not sure re beaches
also not sure whether any of sold moskito homes are contemporary etc
to me, ideal beachfront is lacking all over world, but especially in north america
Oct 3, 2018, 5:35 pm
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I go through this all the time. I value space and privacy. Private pool and a nice beach are also a plus. In addition convenient travel, especially for 2-3 days. The JetBlue. On stop to POP is nice but like you’ve said, they are closed. I’ve been to Amanyara and while it’s not great there aren’t any many great options. Parrot CAy beach villa is actually next on my list for Turks... but with the transfers and lack of a non stop flight for me; I wouldn’t want to go for less than five nights. any thoughts about Anguilla? Beaches there are great. FS doesn’t really appeal to me (what’s with the tiny plunge pools) though. I looked and looked and just couldn’t find anything appealing... the beaches in Mexico just seem kind of blah... especially compared to the bexhes in Turks... so our next trip instead of the CArribean is to Twin Farms....
fdw
fdw
Oct 3, 2018, 5:49 pm
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I go through this all the time. I value space and privacy. Private pool and a nice beach are also a plus. In addition convenient travel, especially for 2-3 days. The JetBlue. On stop to POP is nice but like you’ve said, they are closed. I’ve been to Amanyara and while it’s not great there aren’t any many great options. Parrot CAy beach villa is actually next on my list for Turks... but with the transfers and lack of a non stop flight for me; I wouldn’t want to go for less than five nights. any thoughts about Anguilla? Beaches there are great. FS doesn’t really appeal to me (what’s with the tiny plunge pools) though. I looked and looked and just couldn’t find anything appealing... the beaches in Mexico just seem kind of blah... especially compared to the bexhes in Turks... so our next trip instead of the CArribean is to Twin Farms....
fdw
fdw
Anguilla is great Im sure, but no direct flights is the issue here.
By the way, Ive been to to Parrot Cay back to back when I was last in Turks (it was 5 years ago now). Definitely stunning beaches and the way to go if you like traditional looks. I just hated that it was old looking and so not my taste of design. I understand some are redone or are newer now, but Im scared to go back there lol. I think Amanyara overall was better for me. And its one flight, not sure why you say otherwise. Just an extra 25 minute boat ride to their island, no big deal. Ugh decisions. I dont know what to do.