Report on my stay at Aman Sveti Stefan
Apr 26, 2021, 10:57 am
#181
Join Date: Aug 2018
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In the end, we decided to go for Amanzoe instead, which we loved last time. The One & Only is also in a beautiful setting, but I fear that the Porto Novo development might be more geared towards an Eastern Europe noveau riche clientele which is not really our thing.
Apr 26, 2021, 11:34 am
#182
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Yes - I understand things are difficult right now, but being informed 10 days in advance was a bit challenging given that I am trying to organize a trip for a small group of friends for a special occasion.
In the end, we decided to go for Amanzoe instead, which we loved last time. The One & Only is also in a beautiful setting, but I fear that the Porto Novo development might be more geared towards an Eastern Europe noveau riche clientele which is not really our thing.
In the end, we decided to go for Amanzoe instead, which we loved last time. The One & Only is also in a beautiful setting, but I fear that the Porto Novo development might be more geared towards an Eastern Europe noveau riche clientele which is not really our thing.
O&O is also intriguing, but prices are sky high for a new resort with 140+ rooms. Villa Milocer does seem like a good option for what my wife and I are looking for, my only concern is will we be disappointed by having the island in plain view during our stay without actually being able to visit.
Jan 18, 2023, 12:42 am
#183
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Just bringing up an old thread because it's now already 2023 and so far it's not clear if SS will reopen for this summer?
I already contacted Aman and the only news I got was "nothing we can confirm yet".
Does anybody know what's going on?
I already contacted Aman and the only news I got was "nothing we can confirm yet".
Does anybody know what's going on?
Jan 18, 2023, 1:56 am
#184
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The dispute between Aman/hotel owner with the Montenegrin government still not resolved, court case pending.
Cause of the issue was a change of government in Montenegro, the new government allowed free access to all the beaches to anyone. Obviously, Aman cannot operate under such circumstances.
Jan 18, 2023, 10:57 am
#185
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It won’t reopen in 2023.
The dispute between Aman/hotel owner with the Montenegrin government still not resolved, court case pending.
Cause of the issue was a change of government in Montenegro, the new government allowed free access to all the beaches to anyone. Obviously, Aman cannot operate under such circumstances.
The dispute between Aman/hotel owner with the Montenegrin government still not resolved, court case pending.
Cause of the issue was a change of government in Montenegro, the new government allowed free access to all the beaches to anyone. Obviously, Aman cannot operate under such circumstances.
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Jan 19, 2023, 10:22 am
#186
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This is the case in many countries all over the world. So I'm a little surprised that's the reason.
Jan 20, 2023, 12:43 am
#187
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I certainly wouldn’t pay Aman rates for this:
Last edited by livefromtuscany; Jan 20, 2023 at 3:49 am
Jan 20, 2023, 3:56 pm
#188
Join Date: Feb 2021
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Well, if the alternative is violating the law, I would say the two options are families barbecuing on the beach or no Aman on the beach. It seems like in this case they chose the latter.
Jan 21, 2023, 7:29 am
#189
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I wouldn’t know any Aman Resort beaches were you are surrounded by local familes having barbecues on the beach? Aman has always been about privacy and exclusivity, even in places where beaches are technically public domain.
I certainly wouldn’t pay Aman rates for this:
I certainly wouldn’t pay Aman rates for this:
Jan 21, 2023, 8:26 am
#190
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I agree, that looks sucky. It has always been criticized that the beach is very visible from the public footpath. Also, you don't have the problem with public beaches, of course, if you're on a desert island or otherwise quite lonely. The FS Seychelles also circumvents the problem quite well. Nevertheless, I am surprised that this one point leads to the fact that immediately the whole hotel is closed.
Jan 22, 2023, 1:58 pm
#191
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leaseholder = aman (prior to DLF) > restis > stathis
any agents here remember when sveti decided to stay closed? upthread >
2021 >
and re closures, for amanruya closure, was it only that it did not open for season in 2017?
re rates, aman rates only continue to increase in value, compared to almost all other luxury hotel and luxury resort rates
any agents here remember when sveti decided to stay closed? upthread >
re rates, aman rates only continue to increase in value, compared to almost all other luxury hotel and luxury resort rates
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jan 22, 2023 at 2:21 pm
Jan 25, 2023, 11:55 pm
#192
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leaseholder = aman (prior to DLF) > restis > stathis
any agents here remember when sveti decided to stay closed? upthread >
2021 >
and re closures, for amanruya closure, was it only that it did not open for season in 2017?
re rates, aman rates only continue to increase in value, compared to almost all other luxury hotel and luxury resort rates
any agents here remember when sveti decided to stay closed? upthread >
2021 >
and re closures, for amanruya closure, was it only that it did not open for season in 2017?
re rates, aman rates only continue to increase in value, compared to almost all other luxury hotel and luxury resort rates
- Fall of 2020 at least Villa Milocer was still offered for buy-outs
- I don't remember exactly about Summer 2020 because it could be that Montenegro was still closed during that time due to covid and Montenegro was most certainly not on the EU- green list for a travel corridor. But it seems to me that end of 2020 there was no issue regarding the beach as Villa Milocer was bookable (the main resort on SS island closes shortly after Summer anyway).
- In 2021 Aman confirmed to me that SS would not reopen for the season.
Jan 26, 2023, 1:35 pm
#193
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thanks
balkaninsight.com/2021/10/11/montenegro-govt-claims-ignorance-of-100m-euro-sveti-stefan-lawsuit
another factor is equity vs debt. debt includes >
ebrd.com/work-with-us/projects/psd/sveti-stefan-hotel-complex-ppp.html
queens beach is currently spa and nothing else?
was spa open for villa milocer during winter?
speaking of covid, i heard amanzoe had villas open (not pavilions)
janu montenegro was announced before they decided not to reopen aman sveti stefan
now it is off the website
same owner as aman, size matches ebrd for phase 2 Queens Beach (originally chedi)
and link specifies location of janu as sveti stefan
might be construction to north of queens beach?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sv...6zL20vMDJ2OXF5
balkaninsight.com/2021/10/11/montenegro-govt-claims-ignorance-of-100m-euro-sveti-stefan-lawsuit
another factor is equity vs debt. debt includes >
ebrd.com/work-with-us/projects/psd/sveti-stefan-hotel-complex-ppp.html
€37 million long term debt facility under A/B structure, with two separate tranches (one tranche per phase).
Phase 2...Queens Beach
Project Cost €92.6 million.
Phase 2...Queens Beach
Project Cost €92.6 million.
was spa open for villa milocer during winter?
speaking of covid, i heard amanzoe had villas open (not pavilions)
janu montenegro was announced before they decided not to reopen aman sveti stefan
now it is off the website
same owner as aman, size matches ebrd for phase 2 Queens Beach (originally chedi)
and link specifies location of janu as sveti stefan
might be construction to north of queens beach?
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Sv...6zL20vMDJ2OXF5
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jan 28, 2023 at 8:18 pm
Jul 11, 2023, 11:40 pm
#194
Join Date: Aug 2021
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It's reopening:
"Villa Miločer at Aman Sveti Stefan will open its doors once again on Friday 14 July 2023. Although the island of Sveti Stefan remains closed, guests of Villa Miločer can explore the historic islet by way of a private tour."
Would you still recommend to go there, even with only the villy open?
"Villa Miločer at Aman Sveti Stefan will open its doors once again on Friday 14 July 2023. Although the island of Sveti Stefan remains closed, guests of Villa Miločer can explore the historic islet by way of a private tour."
Would you still recommend to go there, even with only the villy open?
Jul 12, 2023, 1:24 am
#195
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I would not want to be the first guest playing guinea pig ... let's wait for some reports first. The location is certainly incredibly special and there's nothing like it in the region. Very curious how they handled the private/public beach situation and these locals there...