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Old Mar 12, 2022, 10:44 am
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FS does have (hydra) masks as part of minibar offerings, FS Dubai JB for example has them, too. I believe they're blue-ish masks filled with some sort of cooling gel. Not something I need.

Very sorry to hear this happened...
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Old Mar 12, 2022, 2:04 pm
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Originally Posted by scented
FS does have (hydra) masks as part of minibar offerings, FS Dubai JB for example has them, too. I believe they're blue-ish masks filled with some sort of cooling gel. Not something I need.

Very sorry to hear this happened...
For 150€.... I remember some cosmetic masks in hotels, but they were free. Also if my GF buys masks they are far from 150 €
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Old Mar 12, 2022, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by scented
FS does have (hydra) masks as part of minibar offerings, FS Dubai JB for example has them, too. I believe they're blue-ish masks filled with some sort of cooling gel. Not something I need.

Very sorry to hear this happened...
I asked my wife if she knew what is and she told me : this is the thing you're teasing me when I put them on my face

Do you know how much Dubai and JB are charging? My wife was surprised of the EURO 150 cost and she's paying a fraction of this price (maybe not for the same quality)

I did check the mini bar price list (in the first room we had) and IIRC there were no 3 digits numbers (more expensive was euro 80 for half champagne
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Old Mar 12, 2022, 3:12 pm
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Originally Posted by offerendum
For 150€.... I remember some cosmetic masks in hotels, but they were free. Also if my GF buys masks they are far from 150 €
MO Hong Kong had some (free) eye mask on some evening as part of their turndown
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Old Mar 12, 2022, 3:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Jerkstore
Just have a travel advisor add the preferred partner perks and you’re back in business.
Thank you

So a FSPP can add the perks to any reservation ?
They told me that their offer is only valid if I book direct
Anyway, 4 pm is not confirmed with FSPP / virtuoso etc

We'll probably spend the night at the former FS (terre blanche) Not the same service than cap ferrat but half the price and in winter their indoor pool is much appreciated.
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Old Mar 13, 2022, 12:30 am
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Originally Posted by CGRA
I asked my wife if she knew what is and she told me : this is the thing you're teasing me when I put them on my face

Do you know how much Dubai and JB are charging? My wife was surprised of the EURO 150 cost and she's paying a fraction of this price (maybe not for the same quality)

I did check the mini bar price list (in the first room we had) and IIRC there were no 3 digits numbers (more expensive was euro 80 for half champagne
To be honest, I cannot recall but I can assure you it was FAR from € 150.

I have a feeling the mask explanation was more of an excuse on their part.
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Old Apr 14, 2022, 2:56 am
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FS Langkawi without a GM?

I was checking out FS Langkawi’s website and I don’t find a GM listed on their “meet the team” page. My last visit was in 2018 when Andrew Harrison was the GM and I found that he has moved to Hampshire. Is the resort running without a GM? Any recent experience?
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Old Apr 17, 2022, 7:20 pm
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Has anyone had good or bad experience with the 2 Bali properties, Sayan and Jimbaran Bay?
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Old Apr 18, 2022, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by sandeep.thilakan
I was checking out FS Langkawi’s website and I don’t find a GM listed on their “meet the team” page. My last visit was in 2018 when Andrew Harrison was the GM and I found that he has moved to Hampshire. Is the resort running without a GM? Any recent experience?
Their last GM (who was there when I was last there in mid 2019) recently moved to another Four Seasons property a couple of months back - so it's possible that given the hotel hasn't appointed a new one yet given its still opening up from the pandemic. The same old GM is also listed in our agent's page, so it hasn't been updated yet either.
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Old Apr 24, 2022, 2:32 pm
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Originally Posted by CGRA
of course the charge is wrong which is not really the problem : the issue is the ridiculous and stupid reason they provided for this charge. This is the twilight zone.

I asked for a photo of the « hydra mask » out of curiosity and they just advised that they’ll refund and it was a mistake.
After several requests I did receive a message from FS Grand hotel du cap ferrat confirming that a refund will be performed.
After a couple of weeks the refund was not performed and I had to follow up several times to have my euro 150 back.

I had a couple of bad / very bad customer service experience at the FS GV at 2 of their restaurants (George and le Cinq) few months apart. Last bad one was this week.

There is a service labor shortage worldwide so bad / not trained / inexperienced service from front employee is not that surprising and unfortunately FS both properties in France are affected.

The worst part is not that there is no involvement / help from both FS managements / senior people (and I did mail and e-mail a physical letter to the FS Paris GM which went unreplied)

When the management doesn’t care this is the beginning of the end. Unfortunately as I used to love the FS brand.

Will try Oetker in the south of France shortly, we’ll see if they’ll do a better job than FS
Oetker Paris Bristol seems to be about the same high level than pre Covid, probably because their hotel manager is amazing,
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Old Apr 25, 2022, 2:21 am
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Originally Posted by CGRA
After several requests I did receive a message from FS Grand hotel du cap ferrat confirming that a refund will be performed.
After a couple of weeks the refund was not performed and I had to follow up several times to have my euro 150 back.

I had a couple of bad / very bad customer service experience at the FS GV at 2 of their restaurants (George and le Cinq) few months apart. Last bad one was this week.

There is a service labor shortage worldwide so bad / not trained / inexperienced service from front employee is not that surprising and unfortunately FS both properties in France are affected.

The worst part is not that there is no involvement / help from both FS managements / senior people (and I did mail and e-mail a physical letter to the FS Paris GM which went unreplied)

When the management doesn’t care this is the beginning of the end. Unfortunately as I used to love the FS brand.

Will try Oetker in the south of France shortly, we’ll see if they’ll do a better job than FS
Oetker Paris Bristol seems to be about the same high level than pre Covid, probably because their hotel manager is amazing,
I am shocked that Jean-Claude Wietzel did not reply to you… unforgivable and not what I would expect of him. Always thought he would care indeed….

I would email again and take the liberty to CC Simon Casson, who will care 100%.

Looking at rates in Paris for the next months you’d expect nothing but perfection… seems not.
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Old Apr 25, 2022, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by scented
I am shocked that Jean-Claude Wietzel did not reply to you… unforgivable and not what I would expect of him. Always thought he would care indeed….

I would email again and take the liberty to CC Simon Casson, who will care 100%.

Looking at rates in Paris for the next months you’d expect nothing but perfection… seems not.
thank you.
Maybe they have bigger issue to deal with. The hospitality labor shortage in France is difficult.
do you have Simon casson email ?

When we arrived at the FS they had 4 people at the door, none of them said “bonjour”
The George hostess didn’t say “au revoir” neither nor offer bathroom directions.
In some places they escort you back to your table…
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Old May 9, 2022, 2:13 pm
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Luxury Four Seasons Resort to open in Muscat (msn.com)
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Old May 12, 2022, 12:15 am
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Four Seasons Hotels and Resorts to open luxury residences in Qatar at The Pearl – CPP-LUXURY
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Old May 12, 2022, 10:13 am
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