Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 12, 2019, 8:20 am
#5401
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I'm looking at booking TLV-FRA-IAD next summer in J, with 1h45m connection at FRA. Is this a safe connection? I would arrive at 1130 on LH695 (A321) and depart at 1315 on LH418 (B748). We are United 1K's and would be traveling in J the whole way. Assume this would entail a B->Z or Z->Z connection? Thanks!
Aug 12, 2019, 2:59 pm
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I'm looking at booking TLV-FRA-IAD next summer in J, with 1h45m connection at FRA. Is this a safe connection? I would arrive at 1130 on LH695 (A321) and depart at 1315 on LH418 (B748). We are United 1K's and would be traveling in J the whole way. Assume this would entail a B->Z or Z->Z connection? Thanks!
Aug 12, 2019, 3:03 pm
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On recent days LH695 seems to have arrived at a C gate, a B gate or a bus gate (ANS). Whichever gate you arrive at you will have to clear transfer security (but no passport control/immigration). LH418 usually departs from a Z gate. Between B/C and Z you will have to take the Skyline train. As long as your incoming flight is not very late you should be able to make this connection. There will be priority security for J and F passengers.
Aug 18, 2019, 3:38 pm
#5404
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Connection at FRA and Customs
Hi All,
I will be arriving from Chicago on Lufthansa LH 433 and catching a connecting flight to Rome LH 236 will i have to clear customs in Frankfurt or Rome ?
Thanks.
I will be arriving from Chicago on Lufthansa LH 433 and catching a connecting flight to Rome LH 236 will i have to clear customs in Frankfurt or Rome ?
Thanks.
Aug 18, 2019, 3:44 pm
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Passport/Schengen Immigration in FRA, Customs in FCO.
Aug 19, 2019, 1:14 am
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Hand luggage customs in FRA, but you won’t notice it 
Aug 19, 2019, 3:33 am
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Just to be clear at European airports (and many other countries) customs and passport control/immigration are quite separate. Arriving from the US (and any non-Schengen countries) you go through passport control in FRA to enter Schengen but Frankfurt to Rome is treated like a domestic flight.
Aug 19, 2019, 4:21 am
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Passport/Schengen Immigration in FRA, Customs in FCO.
As fassy has rightfully said, in order to switch to the Schengen gate area (where the flight the FCO departs from), all passengers have to pass through a customs checkpoints. You need to make a declaration about stuff in your hand baggage. It is not always manned, however, that depends on the time of the day. Again, Customs will check hand baggage if they have suspicions or if you have declared something there.
Of course, at FCO there will be a Customs checkpoint right after the baggage delivery belts.
Aug 19, 2019, 8:39 am
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As the USA is treated as a "clean" country in the EU you just have to do the immigration (passportcontrol), but no extra security screening.
After the immigration you are in the Schengenarea. And you will get your bags at your destination.
After the immigration you are in the Schengenarea. And you will get your bags at your destination.
Aug 19, 2019, 8:57 am
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Wrong!
As fassy has rightfully said, in order to switch to the Schengen gate area (where the flight the FCO departs from), all passengers have to pass through a customs checkpoints. You need to make a declaration about stuff in your hand baggage. It is not always manned, however, that depends on the time of the day. Again, Customs will check hand baggage if they have suspicions or if you have declared something there.
Of course, at FCO there will be a Customs checkpoint right after the baggage delivery belts.
As fassy has rightfully said, in order to switch to the Schengen gate area (where the flight the FCO departs from), all passengers have to pass through a customs checkpoints. You need to make a declaration about stuff in your hand baggage. It is not always manned, however, that depends on the time of the day. Again, Customs will check hand baggage if they have suspicions or if you have declared something there.
Of course, at FCO there will be a Customs checkpoint right after the baggage delivery belts.
Aug 19, 2019, 9:46 am
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There is no "declaration" other than the "red" or "green" channel. If you go through green you implicitly declare "nothing to declare". They may stop you if they believe you should have declared something. The usual suspects are travellers with huge duty free bags or enormous amounts of hand luggage. In about 30 years and weekly travel through Frankfurt I have never ever been stopped.
Aug 20, 2019, 10:08 am
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Wrong!
As fassy has rightfully said, in order to switch to the Schengen gate area (where the flight the FCO departs from), all passengers have to pass through a customs checkpoints. You need to make a declaration about stuff in your hand baggage. It is not always manned, however, that depends on the time of the day. Again, Customs will check hand baggage if they have suspicions or if you have declared something there.
Of course, at FCO there will be a Customs checkpoint right after the baggage delivery belts.
As fassy has rightfully said, in order to switch to the Schengen gate area (where the flight the FCO departs from), all passengers have to pass through a customs checkpoints. You need to make a declaration about stuff in your hand baggage. It is not always manned, however, that depends on the time of the day. Again, Customs will check hand baggage if they have suspicions or if you have declared something there.
Of course, at FCO there will be a Customs checkpoint right after the baggage delivery belts.
Aug 20, 2019, 11:57 am
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Ah, come on... this nitpicking about "clear hand-baggage customs" is mostly irrelevant since most people just want to know "do I need to pick up my bag at the connecting airport, clear through security and drop it off again". Which arriving in some connecting airport in the EU for a non-Schengen to Schengen transfer is not necessary as you have to clear customs with your bags (all of them, including the hand-baggage) when you arrive at the final destination.
The whole handbaggage declaration after passport control is non-sense as you cannot leave the airport to the Schengen-zone without passing by a customs checkpoint after the baggage claims area. (neither in the connection airport, nor in the final destination)
The whole handbaggage declaration after passport control is non-sense as you cannot leave the airport to the Schengen-zone without passing by a customs checkpoint after the baggage claims area. (neither in the connection airport, nor in the final destination)
Aug 20, 2019, 12:15 pm
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Ah, come on... this nitpicking about "clear hand-baggage customs" is mostly irrelevant since most people just want to know "do I need to pick up my bag at the connecting airport, clear through security and drop it off again". Which arriving in some connecting airport in the EU for a non-Schengen to Schengen transfer is not necessary as you have to clear customs with your bags (all of them, including the hand-baggage) when you arrive at the final destination.
The whole handbaggage declaration after passport control is non-sense as you cannot leave the airport to the Schengen-zone without passing by a customs checkpoint after the baggage claims area. (neither in the connection airport, nor in the final destination)
The whole handbaggage declaration after passport control is non-sense as you cannot leave the airport to the Schengen-zone without passing by a customs checkpoint after the baggage claims area. (neither in the connection airport, nor in the final destination)
Aug 21, 2019, 3:00 am
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It is not just irrelevant, it makes no sense.
Assuming, I arrive in FRA and connect to FCO. Then I clear my carry-on in FRA after passport control. Fine.
Then I pick up my checked bags and move the 10 boxes of Cuban cigars from my checked bag to my carry-on and walk out of the airport. When I’m stopped I tell the Italian customs officer “hey, fee free to check my checked luggage, but you can’t check my carry-on as that was cleared in FRA already”?
as said before, there is now way to exit a EU airport after an international arrival without passing a customs check-point therefore there is no need for a customs check after Schengen Immigration.
Assuming, I arrive in FRA and connect to FCO. Then I clear my carry-on in FRA after passport control. Fine.
Then I pick up my checked bags and move the 10 boxes of Cuban cigars from my checked bag to my carry-on and walk out of the airport. When I’m stopped I tell the Italian customs officer “hey, fee free to check my checked luggage, but you can’t check my carry-on as that was cleared in FRA already”?
as said before, there is now way to exit a EU airport after an international arrival without passing a customs check-point therefore there is no need for a customs check after Schengen Immigration.