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Old Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
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Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.

Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:

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 DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22
 FRA LH TO LH
 FRA-FRA      FROM          -             TO             D/D  D/I  I/D  I/I
 CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM
 LH                BUS      -                            ---- ---- ---- 0100
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 LH           BR            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           CN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           EG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ET            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           IN            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           JP            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           QA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SG            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           TH            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           US            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           ZA            -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -             US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           KJR           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KWQ           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QDU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           QKU           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS      -                            ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH 0400-0799               -                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                        Y-                  TRN       0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KJR          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KWQ          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QDU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKL          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           QKU          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           ZWS          Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           KLT  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH           SDA  BUS     Y-                            0100 ---- ---- ----
 LH                       CA-                            ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       AC-                  TRN       ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH           PL          LO-                            ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH           PL          LO-             SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
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 -LH           BR             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           CN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           EG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ET             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           IN             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           JP             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           QA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           SG             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TH             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           US             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           ZA             ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 -LH           TLV            ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRN      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 TRS      -LH           TLV            ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH                          0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH                BUS       0100 0100 0100 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                TRS      -LH                BUS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH                BUS      -LH                TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   BUS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH                          ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                         -LH           SC   TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRN        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRN      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH           SC   TRS        INV  INV  INV  INV
 LH           XER  BUS      -LH           SC             ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH           TLV            ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                BUS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH 0400-0799               -LH                TRS       ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                BUS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRN      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                TRS      -LH 0400-0799                ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 SG             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC            -LH 0400-0799 ZA             ---- 0045 ---- 0045
 LH           SC   TRS      -LH 0400-0799 US             ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                BUS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                BUS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRN      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                TRS      -LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS       ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH                        Y-LH                BUS       ---- 0100 ---- ----
 LH                       AC-LH                TRN       ---- ---- 0200 ----
 LH           US          UA-LH                          ---- ---- 0100 0100
 LH                       UA-LH           BY             ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH                       EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH                       SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO            ---- ---- ---- 0800
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      BUS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRN     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 LH 0400-0799               -LH 0001-3799      TRS     Y ---- ---- 0100 ----
 -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0100
 -LH                       AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115
 -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 -LH           PL          LO ---- 0100 ---- ----
 -LH           BR          OS ---- 0100 ---- ----
 SC            -LH           PL          LO ---- ---- ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100
 LH                         -LH                       XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130
 LH                BUS      -LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200
 LH                TRN      -LH                       UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           BY            -LH                       UA ---- ---- ----  INV
 LH           QDU           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           QKL           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH           ZWS           -LH           US          UA ---- 0130 ---- ----
 LH                       LG-LH                       AC ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH                       LG ---- ---- ---- 0200
 LH                       AC-LH           AT          OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
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Old Mar 9, 2016, 3:39 am
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Both of your flights will depart from T2.

You'll clear EU border in FRA.

I've never been in T2, but 1:45h sounds like a reasonable connection time. AB has six daily flights FRA-TXL, so even if your flight is late they will rebook you onto the later one.
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Originally Posted by klausa
Both of your flights will depart from T2.

You'll clear EU border in FRA.

I've never been in T2, but 1:45h sounds like a reasonable connection time. AB has six daily flights FRA-TXL, so even if your flight is late they will rebook you onto the later one.
Thanks Klausa. Quick question - Do i need to leave T2 and come back in again to get the boarding pass for the TXL flight. or is there a way to transit internally?
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Old Mar 9, 2016, 3:52 am
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Originally Posted by transitnewb
Advice need for FRA connection (DOH - FRA - TXL)
Hello I am travelling Schengen visa holder travelling next month on the Qatar Airways flight from Doha to Frankfurt. This arrives at 6:45Am. I have a connecting Air Berlin flight from Frankfurt to Berlin (TXL) at 8:25Am.
Although this thread is about connecting in FRA between Lufthansa and Star Alliance airlines, I have done some detective work.

Questions:
  1. Please advise on terminal information for Qatar Airways and AirBerlin.
  2. Do I have to undergo passport control at FRA or TXL
  3. Do i have enough time to transit and make my connecting flight.
1. Qatar Airways flights from DOH arrive at B gates in Terminal 1. Air Berlin flights depart from D gates in Terminal 2. The two terminals are linked by the Skyline shuttle. Just follow the signs for D gates.
2. You go through passport control in FRA. You also go through security check.
3. You should make the connection as long as your incoming flight is not very late but I'm afraid I have no experience of flying from T2 in FRA.
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Old Mar 9, 2016, 3:59 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
1. Qatar Airways flights from DOH arrive at B gates in Terminal 1.
Argh! Silly me, I totally forgot about that. I should've totally known better, especially that I've been known to drool at the QR A350 in FRA
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Old Mar 9, 2016, 10:23 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
Although this thread is about connecting in FRA between Lufthansa and Star Alliance airlines, I have done some detective work.


1. Qatar Airways flights from DOH arrive at B gates in Terminal 1. Air Berlin flights depart from D gates in Terminal 2. The two terminals are linked by the Skyline shuttle. Just follow the signs for D gates.
2. You go through passport control in FRA. You also go through security check.
3. You should make the connection as long as your incoming flight is not very late but I'm afraid I have no experience of flying from T2 in FRA.
Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.
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Old Mar 10, 2016, 6:59 pm
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
So LH691 arrived at A bus gates (immediately below A/Z transfer security) at 9:11 this morning. The departure of LH456 appears to be delayed by 1h35m until 11:45. So the OP had plenty of time to connect between the flights.
Correct but unknown to me was the delay. Fortunately, assuming no delay, the bus took us to A as noted. I recall stepping off the bus at 930 ish - Cleared security and made my way to Z58 at a gait and arrived there at 945 with everyone else having boarded already. Sat down and waited and waited. Delay due to -2C requiring de icing and washroom issue that delayed flight. Allowed me to chat with my fellow upper deck economy flight mates on the A380. Terminal C13 to Z58 would have been much more challenging. By the way we were delayed 40 minutes in Tel Aviv - told fog in Frankfurt - make sense? Thanks for the contributions from all.
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 5:23 am
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SQ 25 from JFK (today it was B46) -> A36

2 hour connection. Do you guys think the tunnel is the fastest?
Security should be only at A gates, right?

Any lounge around A36? Thanks!
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Question FRA-ARN & HAM-FRA connections

I will be flying LH from JFK to ARN connecting through FRA and returning from HAM through FRA to EWR. My connection time in FRA to ARN will be an hour and ten minutes and returning from HAM the connection time will also be an hour an ten minutes. Are these realistic connection times?
I am more concerned about the connection to ARN since I will need to clear immigration and customs in FRA. Also, will I be able to check my luggage through to ARN or will I have to re-check it in FRA?
Concerning the connection times, if it matters, I am flying FC on both transatlantic flights and J on the intra-Europe flights.
Any advice and guide will be much appreciated. Thanks!
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Big_Foot
SQ 25 from JFK (today it was B46) -> A36

2 hour connection. Do you guys think the tunnel is the fastest?
Security should be only at A gates, right?

Any lounge around A36? Thanks!
The tunnel is not normally open for B non-Schengen > A Schengen. The 'official' route is B non-Schengen > Skyline train > A/Z security check > down to passport control and A. Alternatively go through passport control in B, go landside and re-enter A via security.

A departure gates can vary from day to day but the best lounge for A36 will be the Business Lounge above gate A26.
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Hi,

It's been a long while since I connected through Frankfurt (prefer Munich etc.). Now I have a connection to make.
Departing 5/12 arriving 5/13
EWR 18:00 to FRA 7:30am
FRA 09:10 to HAJ 10:00

Both are Terminal 1 but that could still be far far away. Both are LH flights on the same ticket. I fly business and have a german passport. Not sure if I check a bag or not.

As the MCT is probably around 1h I should have no problems. But how much buffer do I have? Is there a lounge "on the way"?

Thanks,
Marc
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by laf747
I will be flying LH from JFK to ARN connecting through FRA and returning from HAM through FRA to EWR. My connection time in FRA to ARN will be an hour and ten minutes and returning from HAM the connection time will also be an hour an ten minutes. Are these realistic connection times?
I am more concerned about the connection to ARN since I will need to clear immigration and customs in FRA. Also, will I be able to check my luggage through to ARN or will I have to re-check it in FRA?
Concerning the connection times, if it matters, I am flying FC on both transatlantic flights and J on the intra-Europe flights.
Any advice and guide will be much appreciated. Thanks!
You can check your luggage to the final destination in each direction. 1h10m from the US to a Schengen flight is a little tight. You only clear passport control in FRA and customs in ARN. There is no special arrival service for First Class passengers in FRA, other than the use of the First Class Lounge (or First Class Terminal) if you have the time and a separate bus to the terminal in case of a remote stand arrival.

On the way back you may be picked up by a limo if the flight from HAM arrives at a remote stand though this is not common.

Both connections are doable as long as the incoming flight is on time. What you will miss is the chance to 'enjoy' the First Class Lounge or the First Class Terminal, unless you miss your connection and are put on the next available flight.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
You can check your luggage to the final destination in each direction. 1h10m from the US to a Schengen flight is a little tight. You only clear passport control in FRA and customs in ARN. There is no special arrival service for First Class passengers in FRA, other than the use of the First Class Lounge (or First Class Terminal) if you have the time and a separate bus to the terminal in case of a remote stand arrival.

On the way back you may be picked up by a limo if the flight from HAM arrives at a remote stand though this is not common.

Both connections are doable as long as the incoming flight is on time. What you will miss is the chance to 'enjoy' the First Class Lounge or the First Class Terminal, unless you miss your connection and are put on the next available flight.
Many thanks!!!
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Originally Posted by blitzen
Hi,

It's been a long while since I connected through Frankfurt (prefer Munich etc.). Now I have a connection to make.
Departing 5/12 arriving 5/13
EWR 18:00 to FRA 7:30am
FRA 09:10 to HAJ 10:00

Both are Terminal 1 but that could still be far far away. Both are LH flights on the same ticket. I fly business and have a german passport. Not sure if I check a bag or not.

As the MCT is probably around 1h I should have no problems. But how much buffer do I have? Is there a lounge "on the way"?

Thanks,
Marc
Unless your incoming flight is very late 1h40m is comfortable for this connection. If you miss the connection by any chance there is another flight to HAJ at 10:00.

Most LH flights from the US arrive at a Z gate but LH403 from EWR arrived at a B gate yesterday, a Z gate today and tomorrow (expected) , and is expected at a C gate the day after! If you arrive at a Z gate it will be a matter of going down one level and through passport control. If you arrive at a B or C gate it might be quicker to go landside through passport control and clear security back into A. It could be quite a long trek from C to A.
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
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Originally Posted by laf747


I will be flying LH from JFK to ARN connecting through FRA and returning from HAM through FRA to EWR. My connection time in FRA to ARN will be an hour and ten minutes and returning from HAM the connection time will also be an hour an ten minutes. Are these realistic connection times?
I am more concerned about the connection to ARN since I will need to clear immigration and customs in FRA. Also, will I be able to check my luggage through to ARN or will I have to re-check it in FRA?
Concerning the connection times, if it matters, I am flying FC on both transatlantic flights and J on the intra-Europe flights.
Any advice and guide will be much appreciated. Thanks!




You can check your luggage to the final destination in each direction. 1h10m from the US to a Schengen flight is a little tight. You only clear passport control in FRA and customs in ARN. There is no special arrival service for First Class passengers in FRA, other than the use of the First Class Lounge (or First Class Terminal) if you have the time and a separate bus to the terminal in case of a remote stand arrival.

On the way back you may be picked up by a limo if the flight from HAM arrives at a remote stand though this is not common.

Both connections are doable as long as the incoming flight is on time. What you will miss is the chance to 'enjoy' the First Class Lounge or the First Class Terminal, unless you miss your connection and are put on the next available flight.
Isn't there an additional security check on the way back at the terminal (enhanced security when flying to the US) or did they get away with it?
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Old Mar 11, 2016, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
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Originally Posted by blitzen


Hi,

It's been a long while since I connected through Frankfurt (prefer Munich etc.). Now I have a connection to make.
Departing 5/12 arriving 5/13
EWR 18:00 to FRA 7:30am
FRA 09:10 to HAJ 10:00

Both are Terminal 1 but that could still be far far away. Both are LH flights on the same ticket. I fly business and have a german passport. Not sure if I check a bag or not.

As the MCT is probably around 1h I should have no problems. But how much buffer do I have? Is there a lounge "on the way"?

Thanks,
Marc




Unless your incoming flight is very late 1h40m is comfortable for this connection. If you miss the connection by any chance there is another flight to HAJ at 10:00.

Most LH flights from the US arrive at a Z gate but LH403 from EWR arrived at a B gate yesterday, a Z gate today and tomorrow (expected) , and is expected at a C gate the day after! If you arrive at a Z gate it will be a matter of going down one level and through passport control. If you arrive at a B or C gate it might be quicker to go landside through passport control and clear security back into A. It could be quite a long trek from C to A.
Thanks! Thankfully I have no problems walking and good to know that there is another flight right afterward if something goes wrong
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