Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Nov 10, 2012, 9:51 am
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Yes. From B follow the signs for Z gates which should take you to the Skyline platform. On the way back the Skyline train platform is close to Z16 gate.
I believe you will have to clear security if you ride the Skyline train and that's when you might be denied access to Pier Z without a BP for a flight departing from there.
I believe you will have to clear security if you ride the Skyline train and that's when you might be denied access to Pier Z without a BP for a flight departing from there.
Nov 12, 2012, 6:55 am
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Arriving from the US you should not need to clear security but unfortunately the layout of FRA does not allow this if your arrival is by bus.
I'm surprised that UA knows the actual bus gate number in advance because they might change gates at the last minute. When the new Pier A+ opens in 10 days Lufthansa/Frankfurt Airport claim 90-100% of longhaul flights will dock at proper gates.
I'm surprised that UA knows the actual bus gate number in advance because they might change gates at the last minute. When the new Pier A+ opens in 10 days Lufthansa/Frankfurt Airport claim 90-100% of longhaul flights will dock at proper gates.
Since my connecting flight was in B non-Schengen, the bus might actually have been faster than having a gate in A+ and needing to walk through the terminal and catch the train.
But none of it mattered in the end because my flight arrived almost two hours late. I got the joy of dealing with the transfer desk which didn't know that arriving UA F passengers were permitted to use the welcome lounge, and didn't know that MS EgyptAir is a Star Alliance member.
Nov 13, 2012, 12:09 am
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Nov 13, 2012, 1:47 am
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Flights from BHX and MAN have been arriving at 1B Bus gates, 1A Bus gates and Z gates (not Z arrival gates @:-)) recently. From what hch reported it sounds like there are more bus gates under the central area between A and A+. I wonder if 1A Bus gate arrivals bypass transfer security? Z gate arrivals certainly should.
Why can't they be consistent? (I know we are talking about FRA!
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Why can't they be consistent? (I know we are talking about FRA!
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Nov 15, 2012, 3:43 pm
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Got a 70 min connection on LH (DEN-ZRH). Not too worried heading to CH, but coming back will need to make the connection (also 70 min). Will they hold the flight as there is just one that day? Today's lookup shows a transfer from 1AB to 1B. Not even sure where to locate that on map.
Nov 16, 2012, 1:12 am
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Got a 70 min connection on LH (DEN-ZRH). Not too worried heading to CH, but coming back will need to make the connection (also 70 min). Will they hold the flight as there is just one that day? Today's lookup shows a transfer from 1AB to 1B. Not even sure where to locate that on map.
Thursday's LH1183 arrived at gate A28 and LH446 departed from Z69. Today the gates are A38 and Z23. You can see where these gates are on this map.
Whichever gate you arrive at or depart from, you will have to go through exit passport control (near gate A11) but no security. Gate Z69 is the furthest gate in the new pier and A38 is towards the end of the old Pier A. So be prepared to walk up to one mile but 70 mins should be enough for this connection. A gates and Z gates with the same gate number are the same gates accessed from two levels. A gates are on level 2, Z gates on level 3.
They are unlikely to hold the flight for you even if your incoming flight is very late but will put you on the next available flight should you miss your connection (and you are on one PNR).
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Nov 16, 2012, 2:55 am
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Got a 70 min connection on LH (DEN-ZRH). Not too worried heading to CH, but coming back will need to make the connection (also 70 min). Will they hold the flight as there is just one that day? Today's lookup shows a transfer from 1AB to 1B. Not even sure where to locate that on map.
Nov 16, 2012, 3:59 am
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Yes, there are and they do reduce the distance you need to walk but I'm not sure how much they speed things up. If I'm in a real hurry I'd walk very fast or run rather than try to walk on the moving walkways.
Nov 16, 2012, 8:24 am
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Nov 16, 2012, 8:43 am
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I am not far behind you- I am 02/2014 and unless something changes my refusal to set foot on a Lufthansa plane with anything higher than a K fare unless it is guaranteed to be new business (impossible) combined with my emphasis on destinations that the entire group do not serve mean I am at 200K HON miles so far this year and will not even reach that total next year- so less than 400K and thus I will help to reduce this heavy HON burden that is hurting so badly the P&L of Lufthansa.
As it appears I am not a "master" of the new way of looking at airline income statements- somehow it is much better to have 200 EUR of economy class revenue than 80K of business per person
Maybe I can guest you next year into the luxury of the ZRH FCL where we can enjoy the new 29 CHF "Champagne" they have scored to switched to as guests "prefer it"??
As it appears I am not a "master" of the new way of looking at airline income statements- somehow it is much better to have 200 EUR of economy class revenue than 80K of business per person
Maybe I can guest you next year into the luxury of the ZRH FCL where we can enjoy the new 29 CHF "Champagne" they have scored to switched to as guests "prefer it"??
Nov 23, 2012, 3:18 pm
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help with connection
So, my mom wants to come visit us in Croatia this spring. She will arrive from SFO in first and connect to Croatia Airlines in C. She will have exactly one hour if the SF flight is on time. Her ticket is an award ticket. Croatia Airlines flights almost always leave from the B terminal; the odds of getting a gate vs. a bus is about 50%.
As I understand things, if the flight from SFO (LH metal) arrives at a parking stand, she will get a special bus for first class passengers to the B gates. Correct? Then she can walk upstairs, clear security and go to the FCL.
From the FCL, if the flight to Croatia is from a gate in B she will just need to walk. If the flight is from a stand, will she get a car or will she have to take the bus since it is not LH metal (just an LH codeshare)?
If she arrives at a gate, she will just have to walk from A or C or Z to B, correct? Can she use the meet and assist service? If so, how does she do this? There are a few references to it in the forums but nothing on the LH website that I could find using a search.
Anything else you can suggest to help her navigate. She has done FRA several times but this will be her first time in first and we are hoping it will make it a bit easier.
As I understand things, if the flight from SFO (LH metal) arrives at a parking stand, she will get a special bus for first class passengers to the B gates. Correct? Then she can walk upstairs, clear security and go to the FCL.
From the FCL, if the flight to Croatia is from a gate in B she will just need to walk. If the flight is from a stand, will she get a car or will she have to take the bus since it is not LH metal (just an LH codeshare)?
If she arrives at a gate, she will just have to walk from A or C or Z to B, correct? Can she use the meet and assist service? If so, how does she do this? There are a few references to it in the forums but nothing on the LH website that I could find using a search.
Anything else you can suggest to help her navigate. She has done FRA several times but this will be her first time in first and we are hoping it will make it a bit easier.
Nov 23, 2012, 4:42 pm
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So, my mom wants to come visit us in Croatia this spring. She will arrive from SFO in first and connect to Croatia Airlines in C. She will have exactly one hour if the SF flight is on time. Her ticket is an award ticket. Croatia Airlines flights almost always leave from the B terminal; the odds of getting a gate vs. a bus is about 50%.
As I understand things, if the flight from SFO (LH metal) arrives at a parking stand, she will get a special bus for first class passengers to the B gates. Correct? Then she can walk upstairs, clear security and go to the FCL.
From the FCL, if the flight to Croatia is from a gate in B she will just need to walk. If the flight is from a stand, will she get a car or will she have to take the bus since it is not LH metal (just an LH codeshare)?
If she arrives at a gate, she will just have to walk from A or C or Z to B, correct? Can she use the meet and assist service? If so, how does she do this? There are a few references to it in the forums but nothing on the LH website that I could find using a search.
Anything else you can suggest to help her navigate. She has done FRA several times but this will be her first time in first and we are hoping it will make it a bit easier.
As I understand things, if the flight from SFO (LH metal) arrives at a parking stand, she will get a special bus for first class passengers to the B gates. Correct? Then she can walk upstairs, clear security and go to the FCL.
From the FCL, if the flight to Croatia is from a gate in B she will just need to walk. If the flight is from a stand, will she get a car or will she have to take the bus since it is not LH metal (just an LH codeshare)?
If she arrives at a gate, she will just have to walk from A or C or Z to B, correct? Can she use the meet and assist service? If so, how does she do this? There are a few references to it in the forums but nothing on the LH website that I could find using a search.
Anything else you can suggest to help her navigate. She has done FRA several times but this will be her first time in first and we are hoping it will make it a bit easier.
I don't think they'll drive her to her flight since it is not a Lufthansa flight even if it departs from a non-gate position.
Arrival service for F pax is very poor in FRA. If she has no mobility problem the only way to arrange a meet and assist service is to book the Lufthansa Guide Service . It costs €55 but might be worth it for the peace of mind.
Since the trip is not until the spring I'd wait and see how arrival and departure gates or flight timing might change before deciding anything definite.