Ways to lose SEN status?
Apr 16, 2008, 5:20 pm
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Apr 16, 2008, 5:26 pm
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Apr 16, 2008, 5:41 pm
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Was just thinking about all the various ways this can happen. I count 6 reasons so far.
- Not fly enough miles
- Become a HON
- Divorce a HON
- Not be reelected to Bundestag (the German government entity whose members are bribed with free SEN status from LH, a private company)
- Not pay the cash renewal fee of 2000
- Material cause (under M&M T&Cs, para 3) in cases where it might lead to unilateral termination of status. (This could involve selling an award, disobeying an FA's instruction, providing false information, harassment, or a host of other unnamed violations)
Anyone know of actual cases where Lufthansa has revoked a SEN's status for material cause? (not that it's my goal)
- Not fly enough miles
- Become a HON
- Divorce a HON
- Not be reelected to Bundestag (the German government entity whose members are bribed with free SEN status from LH, a private company)
- Not pay the cash renewal fee of 2000
- Material cause (under M&M T&Cs, para 3) in cases where it might lead to unilateral termination of status. (This could involve selling an award, disobeying an FA's instruction, providing false information, harassment, or a host of other unnamed violations)
Anyone know of actual cases where Lufthansa has revoked a SEN's status for material cause? (not that it's my goal)
Apr 16, 2008, 5:42 pm
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Another reason is if M&M ceases to exist or abolishes SEN status (or I suppose changes the name).
Also you can voluntarily rescind your M&M membership. Yeah, I know some elites who have done that (not with M&M) when deeply unhappy with their airline/FFP.
Also you can voluntarily rescind your M&M membership. Yeah, I know some elites who have done that (not with M&M) when deeply unhappy with their airline/FFP.
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Apr 16, 2008, 6:00 pm
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Through it into the betting pile while gambling?
I jokingly threw in a 1K card raising on a nut straight with a few buddies, but they wouldn't take it since they all know 1K isn't what it used to be
I jokingly threw in a 1K card raising on a nut straight with a few buddies, but they wouldn't take it since they all know 1K isn't what it used to be
Apr 16, 2008, 8:34 pm
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After traveling and observing the past two years and 780,000 *A miles later, I am neither proud nor happy to have SEN status. All I really care about is the lounge access - invaluable during 2 or more hours of layover. If I lost status with LH (and I will never become HON, regardless, I live in the US), I'd start with some other airline. What gives? We are all trash as SENs in the eyes of LH.
Apr 16, 2008, 10:15 pm
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Here is another one (also a subset of point 1):
- You have a baby and go on parental leave.
In a rare moment of family friendliness LH used to give a SEN extension for parents taking care of their children but they soon realized their wrong ways and corrected it promptly.
- You have a baby and go on parental leave.
In a rare moment of family friendliness LH used to give a SEN extension for parents taking care of their children but they soon realized their wrong ways and corrected it promptly.
Apr 17, 2008, 3:23 am
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Apr 17, 2008, 4:01 am
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The first and fifth should be combined. Not paying cash renewal fee is only relevant if you did not fly enough miles, and if did not fly enough miles then you also need to have not paid for cash renewal. Strictly not fly enough miles on the right airlines in the right booking classes in the right time period
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Apr 17, 2008, 4:56 am
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Apr 17, 2008, 5:10 am
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