Would an LH Award Allow this Routing?
Mar 31, 2007, 4:41 pm
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Would an LH Award Allow this Routing?
Sorry, I cannot call LH right now, so if someone can help, that would be great.
Simple question:
Could I do the following routing on an LH award:
MAD-(MUC or FRA)-KBP // IEV-(MUC or FRA)-KBP
This is a simple open jaw, right? The LH.com gives an error when it tries to book.
Thanks,
BJ
Simple question:
Could I do the following routing on an LH award:
MAD-(MUC or FRA)-KBP // IEV-(MUC or FRA)-KBP
This is a simple open jaw, right? The LH.com gives an error when it tries to book.
Thanks,
BJ
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Mar 31, 2007, 4:44 pm
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If you are going to Kiev, you should use the code KBP rather than IEV. The former is for the main international airport, the latter is for one which does more internal flights. That might help on lh.com!
Mar 31, 2007, 4:50 pm
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Do you think this routing would be allowed?
Mar 31, 2007, 6:43 pm
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So you are going from Spain to Kiev back to Germany and back to Kiev? I doubt that is allowed on a single award. And since M&M charges a wounded bull for one-way awards will not be particularly efficient combined award either.
Mar 31, 2007, 6:59 pm
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No, no. I'm not stopping in Germany either way. It's just a transit. The award would be MAD-Kiev//Kiev-ATH. Isn't that a simple open jaw that should be allowed? There is no stopover in Germany - just connect.
Mar 31, 2007, 8:03 pm
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Mar 31, 2007, 8:10 pm
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I seem to remember some discussion that the length of the open sector needs to be shorter than either of the flown sectors, which it is not in your case. If this is incorrect, I am sure someone will correct me...
Mar 31, 2007, 8:31 pm
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Yes by definition an open jaw must be the shortest of 3 sides of the triangle. In this case MAD-ATH must be shorter than both MAD-KPB, KBP-ATH. (I'm not sure if distances used direct routing or actual for the purposes of this test - in either case I don't think it meets the definition of open jaw.)
Mar 31, 2007, 11:57 pm
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. The third agent smoothly booked it after verifying that SYD-WLG is indeed longer than NSN-AKL.Still an interesting argument as the outbound is not SYD-WLG but SYD-NSN, so shouldn't the latter distance count?
Apr 1, 2007, 12:17 am
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I don't know. It is irrelevant, but NSN-AKL is indeed mostly over water. A bit hard to tell from GCM, but in my experience is basically over land only at Taranaki, and Pukekohe/Waiuku area (possibly also Manukau depending on runway direction being used). The rest is over Cook Strait, just off the North Island west coast, and over Manukau Harbour.
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Apr 1, 2007, 12:43 am
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?Of course you are right, I did it a few times and there is a lot of Tasman water down there.
But then the SYD-PER is often mostly over water and still doesn't count as such. And you can do NSN-AKL by car or train & bus or by foot somehow ....
Apr 1, 2007, 1:39 am
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Yes of course these are not flight paths - but at such a small scale you can safely assume NZ to be twodimensional and draw the straight line between NSN and AKL. After all, the Great Circle Mapper doesn't do anything else.
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