weero

How would someone who's spending 150K pro anno on LH (note that is the only unit they can measure, they won't know if you adulterate with BA or TK) be a SEN?
Yes, I know that with some effort one can construe such a situation but that would take a person even dumber than one who wastes 150K annually on LH.
I seriously doubt that they remotely have the resources to operate a system to even assess such a quantification. And there also is not hint in such a system in existence.
Exactly. Seems to be the Brothers Grimm authorship among LH employees IMO. Note also that the number SebFra gives - capped at 10 - collides with RTW's observation of more than 20 SEN+ entities.
I am willing to swallow that the purser and the captain actually believe that the computer printout means such a thing but I seriously doubt that the IT can reasonably provide this information.

Just imagine - we talk about an airline here: they cannot retrieve the fare class of a ticket I have bought and have just flown. How would they keep track of the value of that ticket?

bau31888

On the flight, which made me SEN, I was a normal FTL... Well, I have never seen a "+" on the pax lists.

SmilingBoy

That sounds interesting and plausible. To add to the observations: In four months in 2005, I had 8 RT to South Africa, booked on LH in booking class C (and no discounts...), and one one LX in F. This made me SEN (not that quickly as several were on LH code SA metal). In the months after that, I was SEN+ on all manifests I saw. Now my travel has "normalised" again (less long-haul flights, but quite a few intra-European C class flights, but on track to renew SEN), and I don't show up as SEN+ any more.

SmilingBoy.

Triple3

^

Would have made this remark, too.

Triple3

GULP.

I was talking abt. thesis not theories. You call Bohr a liar because he neither provided proof nor a statistical base for his two "jump" thesis?

But we can continue this discussion via PM ... no need to challenge totti to another thread shutdown.

Triple3

Interesting.

There must be other possibilities - if the header exists. Otherwise a newborn young HON might be ranked far below an old GM.
No that of course would fit into the LH hates LH elites scheme.

SMK77

Status beats lifetime miles flown:

1) Young HON - 750.000 miles
2) SEN - 2.350.000 miles
3) SEN - 800.000 miles
4) FTL - 1.000.000 miles
5) Blue - 1.200.000 miles

This would be the pecking order for upgrades - I would guess that the same logic applies to the PIL... That still makes me a SEN-...

IAN-UK

It certainly feels übercool. I'm an LH birthday-boy. I understand from a previous post that the birthday card (framed and hung prominently in my office) is a firm indicator of überSen status. Please tell me how and where to grab a passenger manifest on my next flight, so I can confirm my position in the M&M hierarchy.

I know manifest inspection carries the chance of bitter disappointment, but there are some risks a man has to take.

whiskey_sk

you'll find it in the galley, hanging somewhere. I do not condone taking it from there, though. Just looky, no touchy, understand?

szg

It is only in the first galley near the door, where the purser works.

weero

The second issue I have with SebFra's admittedly interesting outline is that there is no + for HON. As there simply MUST be HONs among the 10 most important/interesting/valuable people aboard, there is no way that this designator could be limited to SENs.
Are you sure about this???? I never heard anything that there is such a thing as pecking order within one level. I kn ow it is one of the all time favourite topics on the UA forum and there are strong hints that UA implements a pecking order beyond the elite tiers but LH.
Do we have any observations, threads, insiders to report so?
Ok that was strong wording indeed. It did not imply that your statement is lie. It simply means that if someone claims a factoid observed that this has some weight until proven false whereas someone proposing a theory needs to do the initial falsification before making a credible claim.
Thesis=theory bound in paper. Depends on which Bohr you talk about .

roundtheworld

No it doesn't as I as a HON, and about 3 mio miles flown with LH have never seen a + next to my name ... and yes I have been the header ...

ulev

Well, maybe there is a good explanation why they tend to ignore me so often as HON lately.
My guess would be the system experiences an overflow on lifetime miles so it puts me back to all zeros. My name doesn't show up in the header anymore and no + either. Whereas a young fellow like RTW is always up the top because he never made it over 10.000.000 life time miles.

Come on guys, start speculating on this one.

weero

My 'speculation' is that the overflow should no occur at a power of 10 as this would imply that someone intentionally programmed the overflow into the system .

My other take is that LH's waiters has no clue how important a pax is other than this pax being HON, SEN, or VIP. Nor does the IT know more.

Triple3

The GULP referred to me being labelled your son. That's why I put it in bold letters.