Swiss merger with Lufthansa master thread

Old Jul 25, 05, 10:10 pm
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Swiss merger with Lufthansa master thread

I have set up this master thread to try to have an easy reference for questions on Swiss (LX) acquisition (insert merger or other euphamism here!), including impacts on airline and Miles and More. I will also attempt to link in relevant threads on the LX forum.

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Old Jul 25, 05, 10:11 pm
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This post for links to info on what will happen to Swiss

Report on first LX flights after merger (includes info on visiting LH lounges)

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This post for links to info on what will happen to Lufthansa

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Old Jul 25, 05, 10:12 pm
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This post for links to info on what will happen to LX Travel Club

LX & LH benefits start 20 July 05

Your fears for LX Travel Club

Phone survey

Save Swiss Travel Club

STC will close Q2 2006

Comparison miles awards M&M / STC

From an activity-based FFP to a revenue-based one

One STC mile is not always more valuable than one M&M mile

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Credit for LX Metal on LH Miles & More

Promo for flights on LX metal

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Old Jul 25, 05, 10:13 pm
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This post for links to general news on Swiss merger

Swiss to join Star Alliance (discussion thread in LX forum)

Swiss codeshare with Air Canada

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Can LX Travel Club status earning be added to LH Miles and More status earning?

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Old Jul 25, 05, 11:28 pm
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Old Jul 26, 05, 2:22 am
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Question Tranferring AMEX points to LX

I still have tons of AMEX points but after changing companies, I'll no longer have a Corporate AMEX and won't add any points to my account. So it's now about spending them. As LH SEN with plenty of points there and a couple of LX points, I thought about transferring the AMEX points to LX. Can those be now already used on LH flights and does anybody have an idea, when and at what "exchange rate" the two programs will be merged?
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Old Jul 26, 05, 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by chapinpirulin
I still have tons of AMEX points but after changing companies, I'll no longer have a Corporate AMEX and won't add any points to my account. So it's now about spending them. As LH SEN with plenty of points there and a couple of LX points, I thought about transferring the AMEX points to LX. Can those be now already used on LH flights and does anybody have an idea, when and at what "exchange rate" the two programs will be merged?
I also thought that this was quite a good spending of Amex-miles. Exchange rate Amex-Swiss is 1:1.

Since prices for LH awards in STC are the same as in M & M, I consider the exchange rate Amex-LH 1:1 as well. They are valid for three years on STC.

Either they merge the two programs, which is rather probable, then you can add your Swiss miles into your M & M account, or you can use them for LH awards directly out of STC. Only disadvantage at this moment: No companion discount on Swiss AFAIK.
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Old Jul 26, 05, 6:04 am
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Passenger_by_Passion what Amex are you using? Checking the Swiss Amexco Page the stated conversion is 2 Membership Rewards Points = 1 STC Mile

http://www.americanexpress.ch/d/pers...ravelclub.html

Prices for LH awards are different in STC i.e. if you want a LH reward the usual STC points are required which are higher than the M&M points required. A free Ticket in C to US costs 105'000 STC miles be it with LX or LH Metal. As far as I remember LH M&M charges less points to USA (I'm not in M&M though but from what I read).
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Thanks for consolidating the information.

Just a small remark, but it is not a merger, as far as I understand. It is an acquisition (even though they keep calling it a "merger").
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Just a small remark, but it is not a merger, as far as I understand. It is an acquisition (even though they keep calling it a "merger").
Good point attorney28. It definitely is an acquisition, a textbook example of, I would say. A "merger" is just a euphemism! And it is not a triviality pointing this out. Since there is so much discussion going on (that Kiwi Flyer courteously consolidated here) this clarification should give some clues as to the future of Swiss and their relation to LH: Swiss is an acquired firm. And casual empiricism suggests that acquired firms never have bargaining power. Ever.

Can you all now place bets regarding the future of STC and the airline?
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Old Jul 26, 05, 9:36 am
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Ralf, enjoy the trip!

At this time, I don't think you'd be that lucky. But you can always try, right! In fall, or spring 06, you might have more luck. When is our trip?
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