patvd

You don�t have two seats for yourself! There may be an empty seat next to you, but it�s not yours, so you can�t invite anyone.

Van_Looy

Of course it is not ok to invite guests. No different from self-upgrading because there is an unused seat in a premium cabin.

But whoa, what a bold statement. Accusing all businesses of lying and publicly laughting at regulators and lawmakers?

Out of my Element

Aren't they doing the electronic bracelet thing yet that will buzz if a Y passenger tries to pass the barrier?

Kleffen

Everyone in Y should be forced to wear the Wedlock stuff from the old Rutger Hauer movie from 1991. If they pass the curtain the head comes off...

Fennario

Nope, the cabin was full, and the visitor (older man) was the 9th person in there having dinner. He was invited into the cabin right before caviar service, sat down on the ottoman in 1A, and proceeded to take a bunch of photos of the cabin with his phone. As I wrote above, the two pax even traded places for an hour or two following dinner. The younger guy who started out in 1A left the cabin with his laptop, while the older one (visitor) reclined and then lied flat for a long while until the F pax came back to reclaim his seat (an hour or two later).

Again, I didn't complain at the time because I got the impression that this was common practice. There was even a CoCreation Hub survey about it: https://cocreationhub.lufthansagroup...ining/overview

Given this experience in F previously, I wondered about a continental J flight. I will be on an F ticket during the J flight in question. It seemed that if this practice can happen to my detriment, then it ought to be able to happen to my benefit as well. Regardless, this thread has convinced me to drop the idea of asking the purser about a guest.


Guest was 9th in cabin and arrived for caviar and dinner.

Guest borrowed 1A for an hour or two.

So it does happen. I've decided that I won't bother to try my luck, but it's interesting to know that it happens.

Fair point, although the spare seats sometimes have writing on them that say "your free space".

cfischer

Not o.k. in J. Not o.k. in F. Most crews will police this (and they should).

UncleDude

Certainly Not only Low and Non Revenue Staff are allowed this undocumented Perk.

Oh and last Minute Standbys as moving an Elite High Revenue Passengers from Y to Business would cause Far too Much inconvenience for the Gate Staff.

Perhaps maybe Crew Family and Friends Other FA you may know.

MeltingAlf

If I was in the J seat on the aisle/window on the same row I'd rightly ask for a refund.

Intercontinental F aside, one of the few perks of Euro-J is the spare seat next to me. And considering that's shared with the other J pax in the same row it's very much not yours alone.

That's also a problem with 2x2 - because on LHG the J seats on 2x2 rows are staggered. I'm not going to run the risk of my legs and knees from getting rammed by your guest from Y.

patvd

You mean the middle seat? That one is indeed free space to be shared between the window and aisle seat passengers, but should remain unoccupied.

Fennario

That's actually a good point. I think you're talking about the possibility of the seat being reclined, in which case the guest would affect the experience of anyone who might be in J behind them.

No, I specified 2x2 (see first post), in which case there is no middle seat.

andywaw

In fairness, the OP specified in his first post that he meant 2-2 seat configuration. FT users rush to comment on something they did not read in detail...
Nevertheless, I still think that even in 2-2 C seat configuration, guesting someone from Y on the seat next to you is not allowed.

zitsky

Why not book the F cabin then, so you can invite your friend(s)?

the810

Presumably because convincing Lufthansa to fly an A350 to Katowice would be significantly more costly than 500 euros for a J seat in a CRJ.

Coffee drinker

I hope it's not ok. Want to sit in J, pay for J or use points.

And who gave you permission to post pictures of F pax on the forum? You are violating their privacy.

Fennario

Or perhaps convincing them to cram an F cabin into the CRJ...maybe an Allegris super-suite with a bed for 6 people and some Taste of Heimat thrown in for old times sake.

Understandable. Images are now edited for privacy.