The LOT Kafeteria 2018-23 (retired)
Oct 22, 2018, 10:23 am
#287
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LCA was op by a VLM 321 (OO-SBA). I thought VLM were bust?
Theres still a lot of canx today.
I’m guessing it’s the young crew on strike, with the crap contracts? For what LOT pay them they would be better workinf in a call centre. Once you’ve exhausted the LO network on non-rev, time to move on... that’s what the lounge staff do.
Theres still a lot of canx today.
I’m guessing it’s the young crew on strike, with the crap contracts? For what LOT pay them they would be better workinf in a call centre. Once you’ve exhausted the LO network on non-rev, time to move on... that’s what the lounge staff do.
Oct 22, 2018, 2:21 pm
#288
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Wrocław, Poland
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B2B contracted "one-man-companies" cannot strike. The strike is being done mostly by actual employees belonging to ZZPPiL (flight attendants union) and ZZPK (pilots union) with support of the country-level trade unions OPZZ and OZZ Inicjatywa Pracownicza, though the demands are also in the interest of the currently-B2B'ed people. A few B2B pilots have reportedly protested as well, anyway. Some B2B crews got premiums for flying during strike, but gave that surplus money to the protesting employees.
There is a conflict of opinion on the legality of strike: the unions say it's legal, the CEO says it's illegal, both referring to the same court statement. The CEO claims the people on strike have broken the contracts and considers them summarily discharged - by text messages and emails, which, the unions claim, have no legal value.
The unions claim some of the flight attendant crews still working do not have valid papers for the flights they're on. Civil Aviation Authority (ULC) had reportedly ordered some people not to fly due to invalid documents on one flight, but that decision was almost immediately revoked after a call from LOT management to ULC.
Here's the flyer the unions are giving away around at WAW and to passers-by near LOT HQ, which is, funnily, located at "ul. Komitetu Obrony Robotników", "Workers' Defense Committee Street", named after the anti-Communist organization that later gave birth to "Solidarity". Also, the current trade union using the name and logo of the original "Solidarity", affiliated to the ruling party, does not support this strike.
This FB page seems to be run by the unions and reports what's happening near LOT HQ.
There is a conflict of opinion on the legality of strike: the unions say it's legal, the CEO says it's illegal, both referring to the same court statement. The CEO claims the people on strike have broken the contracts and considers them summarily discharged - by text messages and emails, which, the unions claim, have no legal value.
The unions claim some of the flight attendant crews still working do not have valid papers for the flights they're on. Civil Aviation Authority (ULC) had reportedly ordered some people not to fly due to invalid documents on one flight, but that decision was almost immediately revoked after a call from LOT management to ULC.
Here's the flyer the unions are giving away around at WAW and to passers-by near LOT HQ, which is, funnily, located at "ul. Komitetu Obrony Robotników", "Workers' Defense Committee Street", named after the anti-Communist organization that later gave birth to "Solidarity". Also, the current trade union using the name and logo of the original "Solidarity", affiliated to the ruling party, does not support this strike.
This FB page seems to be run by the unions and reports what's happening near LOT HQ.
Oct 22, 2018, 3:17 pm
#289
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Wrocław, Poland
Programs: SK *S, LH *S; Accor ALL Gold
Posts: 231
List of today's flights that were cancelled:
LO375/376 WAW-NUE-WAW
LO79/80 WAW-NRT-WAW
LO97/98 WAW-ICN-WAW
LO45/46 WAW-YYZ-WAW
LO285/LO286 WAW-LHR-WAW
LO333/LO334 WAW-CDG-WAW
LO3937/LO3938 WAW-SZZ-WAW
LO3827/LO3828 WAW-GDN-WAW
LO3983/LO3984 WAW-IEG-WAW
LO401/LO402 WAW-HAM-WAW
LO679/LO680 WAW-DME-WAW
LO391/LO392 WAW-TXL-WAW
LO375/376 WAW-NUE-WAW
LO79/80 WAW-NRT-WAW
LO97/98 WAW-ICN-WAW
LO45/46 WAW-YYZ-WAW
LO285/LO286 WAW-LHR-WAW
LO333/LO334 WAW-CDG-WAW
LO3937/LO3938 WAW-SZZ-WAW
LO3827/LO3828 WAW-GDN-WAW
LO3983/LO3984 WAW-IEG-WAW
LO401/LO402 WAW-HAM-WAW
LO679/LO680 WAW-DME-WAW
LO391/LO392 WAW-TXL-WAW
Oct 22, 2018, 4:28 pm
#290
Join Date: Jul 2017
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Why is it no longer possible to change seats on lot.com?
Oct 23, 2018, 2:21 am
#291
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Oct 23, 2018, 2:22 am
#292
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Oct 23, 2018, 3:50 am
#295
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
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Posts: 2,501
I was on BA871 yesterday departing Warsaw at 20:35, before check in plane looked empty, but thanks to LOT's cancellation, it got many pax moved onto our flight. Good to see LOT using other airlines than *A to get pax to their destination.
Oct 23, 2018, 4:52 am
#296
Join Date: Jul 2017
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I’ve seen it be possible early on this year. I don’t understand their IT at times.
Oct 23, 2018, 5:07 am
#297
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Most airlines have agreements with most other airlines so they can get passengers to their destinations. Depending on the route, there will be a priority list and for LOT it’ll be to check *A first. I don’t think other *A carriers fly to LHR direct from WAW so makes sense to book people onto this flight first.
Oct 23, 2018, 5:28 am
#299
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Location: SJJ/AMS
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Most airlines have agreements with most other airlines so they can get passengers to their destinations. Depending on the route, there will be a priority list and for LOT it’ll be to check *A first. I don’t think other *A carriers fly to LHR direct from WAW so makes sense to book people onto this flight first.
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Oct 24, 2018, 3:41 am
#300
Join Date: Jul 2017
Programs: Miles & More, BA Executive Club
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Indeed - and mostly considering that LOT cancelled the last flight of the day to LHR (presumably packed with connecting passengers arriving after 7PM and therefore not even allowing space for alternative arrangements via FRA/MUC/VIE/ZRH) hence the only choice they would have had was paying hotel and indeed compensation. I had a few instances when KLM pro-actively cancelled flights to AMS due to adverse weather and I was automatically rebooked on LOT/Lufthansa, not uncommon at all (even though some airlines are extremely reluctant to offer alternative via other carriers), more recently a missed connection at JFK (Delta), which again resulted in rebooking arrangements through other carrier (LOT/JFK-WAW instead of the original routing via AMS).
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