Lufthansa RTW fare rule out of Australia

Old Dec 4, 15, 7:46 pm
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Lufthansa RTW fare rule out of Australia

Hi,

Has anyone access to the rules for LH's mini RTW fare for 2015/2016.

They are always hard to find but not accessible currently.

I am interested in knowing which airlines can be used in particular and what are the stopover cities in North America and the fare basis for each airline in case I try to upgrade.

I have used Star1 rtws in the last few years but am not visiting many cities this time so no reason to splurge when the LH or ZH prices are in the range of AUD7000.

I have also steered clear of LH because of its abysmal old J seats but it appears they have been replaced now with better ones.
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Old Dec 5, 15, 2:24 am
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I do have access via Sabre, but the rules and exceptions are complicated and span over dozens of pages, so I can't post them here.

You can assume that all Star Alliance member airlines can be used, and there are no specific stopover points. You could fly to and stop in very small and very remote cities.

The fare basis is always the same, so you probably meant the different booking codes for each airline. It's mostly Q, but again there are many exceptions.

If you don't mind to post (or PM me) your intended itinerary I can be more specific.
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Old Dec 5, 15, 10:16 am
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Actually, it's fairly straightforward looking at the fares in Amdeus.

Here are the routing options via the Eastern Hemisphere:

Code:
  1 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/                       
      BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                       
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                     
      HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                             
  2 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/                       
      BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                       
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                          
  3 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/                       
      BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                            
  4 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/                       
      HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-                       
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                     
  5 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/                       
      HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-                       
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                  
  6 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/                       
      HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                    
  7 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/                       
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                       
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                     
      LH/4U-FRA                                                                 
  8 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/                       
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                       
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                              
  9 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/                       
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                
 10 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                    
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                       
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                     
      HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                             
 11 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                    
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                       
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                          
 12 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                    
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-FRA                            
 13 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                    
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                       
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/                      
      4U-FRA                                                                    
 14 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                    
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                       
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                  
 15 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                    
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                    
 16 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                       
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                       
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/                      
      4U-FRA                                                                    
 17 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                       
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                       
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                  
 18 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                       
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                    
 19 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/                      
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                       
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                    
 20 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/                      
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                       
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                      
 21 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/                      
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                        
 22 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                     
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                       
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                     
      LH/4U-FRA                                                                 
 23 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                     
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                       
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                              
 24 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                     
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                
 25 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                      
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                     
      LH/4U-FRA                                                                 
 26 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                      
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                              
 27 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                               
 28 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/                      
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                       
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                    
 29 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/                      
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                       
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                      
 30 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/                      
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                        
 31 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                       
      HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                        
 32 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                       
      HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                          
 33 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-FRA
Here are the routing rules via the Pacific and Atlantic:

Code:
  1 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-                      
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                     
  2 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-                      
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                  
  3 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-                      
      FRA                                                                       
  4 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/                      
      AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/                       
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                       
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/                      
      4U-FRA                                                                    
  5 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/                      
      AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/                       
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                       
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                  
  6 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/                      
      AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/                       
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-FRA                                    
  7 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/                       
      BOG/PTY/CUN-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/                     
      BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                         
  8 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/                       
      BOG/PTY/CUN-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                      
  9 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/                       
      BOG/PTY/CUN-FRA                                                           
 10 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/                      
      MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/                     
      EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                  
 11 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/                      
      MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/                     
      EW-FRA                                                                    
 12 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/                      
      MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-FRA                                                    
 13 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                    
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                      
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/                      
      BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                         
 14 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                    
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                      
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                       
 15 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                    
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                      
      CUN/TPA-LH-FRA                                                            
 16 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                       
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                      
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/                      
      BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                         
 17 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                       
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                      
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                       
 18 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                       
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                      
      CUN/TPA-LH-FRA                                                            
 19 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/                       
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-CGN/BER/                       
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                     
      HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                             
 20 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/                       
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-CGN/BER/                       
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                          
 21 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/                       
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-FRA                            
 22 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-                    
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                     
 23 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-                    
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                  
 24 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-                    
      FRA                                                                       
 25 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                    
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                     
      LH/4U-FRA                                                                 
 26 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                    
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                              
 27 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-FRA                             
 28 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/                       
      CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-                      
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                     
 29 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/                       
      CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-                      
      FRA                                                                       
 30 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/                       
      CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-FRA

One thing to keep in mind with those fares, especially if you route via North America: Many of the routing options are valid, but from our experience at my travel agency, they often do not auto-price, thus requiring a manual pricing.

So if you are using one of the online tools available to price out an itinerary you should keep in mind that these online tools most likely will only price out a fraction of what's possible on these fares.

Fares via the Eastern Hemisphere are available in P/Z/D/C/J; fares via the Pacific and Atlantic in Z/D/C/J.

In addition to the routing rules, keep the following flight application rules in mind:

Code:
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK                                            
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK                                            
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                            
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE                           
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT                                                           
        ANY EW FLIGHT                                                           
        ANY 4U FLIGHT                                                           
        ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS                                            
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX                                            
        ANY SN FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN                                            
        ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK                                            
        ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP                                            
        ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN S.W. PACIFIC                     
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF                                            
        ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX                                            
        ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI                                            
        ANY AI FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA                       
  AND SOUTHEAST ASIA                                                            
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG                                            
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ                                            
        ANY TG FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG                                            
        ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ                                            
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF                                            
        ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX                                            
        ANY CA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA                                            
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA                                            
        ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                            
        ANY 3K FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3K                                            
        ANY BL FLIGHT OPERATED BY BL                                            
        ANY VF FLIGHT OPERATED BY VF                                            
        ANY GA FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA                                            
        ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA                       
  AND SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT                                                  
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI                                            
        ANY AI FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA                       
  AND SOUTH AFRICA                                                              
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY SA FLIGHT OPERATED BY SA                                            
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICA                    
  AND GERMANY                                                                   
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.                                           
  AND                                                                           
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTHEAST                        
  ASIA                                                                          
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                              
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH                                            
        ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ.                                           
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  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTHEAST                       
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      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
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        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.
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        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK                                            
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                            
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.                                           
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  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN S.W.                           
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        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                            
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC                                            
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        ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                            
        ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                            
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        ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ.                                           
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  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN S.W. PACIFIC                     
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
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  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1                           
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        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                            
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  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA                    
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                               
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        ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ                                            
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ                                            
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  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN AREA 1 AND                     
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        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.                                           
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  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE                           
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        ANY 4U FLIGHT.
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Old Dec 5, 15, 10:44 am
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Why is TK exempt from those fares?
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Old Dec 5, 15, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by klausa View Post
Why is TK exempt from those fares?
They are not. TK can be booked using e. g. the YRWSPCL fare (I was under the impression that the OP wanted to book economy and upgrade to business).
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Old Dec 6, 15, 3:41 pm
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The OP is talking about the Mini-RTW-fares ex Australia, not the *A RTW fares however...
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Old Dec 6, 15, 11:44 pm
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Thank you for the feedback.

I have confused you .

I want to buy a lh mini rtw not a star special and was looking at codes to see it any flights were potentially upgradable to F.
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Old Dec 7, 15, 1:46 am
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Thanks for the clarification - I was indeed mistaken. My impression was you wanted to buy the *A economy RTW special and upgrade to business. But you meant to buy a PRCAU/ZRFAU fare. Due to the booking classes these fares are not upgradeable to first, at least not on LH. TK does not participate, and rcs85551 already provided the valid routings.
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Old Dec 7, 15, 3:03 am
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Originally Posted by jreichel View Post
Thanks for the clarification - I was indeed mistaken. My impression was you wanted to buy the *A economy RTW special and upgrade to business. But you meant to buy a PRCAU/ZRFAU fare. Due to the booking classes these fares are not upgradeable to first, at least not on LH. TK does not participate, and rcs85551 already provided the valid routings.
P and Z can be upgraded on LX, if that is an option.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 9:58 am
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Would someone kindly explain what an LH mini RTW is and whether it is avalable anywhere other than Australia?

I searched and found little info at a basic level.
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Old Dec 8, 15, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by You want to go where? View Post
Would someone kindly explain what an LH mini RTW is and whether it is avalable anywhere other than Australia?

I searched and found little info at a basic level.
AFAIK, it is available only for departures from Australia. As the name suggests, it is type of RTW, but with rather severe limitations. Still worth using - have been using it for 10 or so years now. This link tells you all you need to know.
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Old Oct 18, 16, 8:44 pm
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Just wanted to revive this thread as I'm also looking at this fare ex-Australia but in Economy and would welcome some assistance for the following itinerary:

28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR on NZ connecting to AC YVR/YYC

10/5/2017 YYC/YVR on AC connecting to LH for YVR/FRA or MUC/LHR

25/5/2017 LHR/FRA/BKK or SIN on LH connecting to HKT on either TG, 3K or MI

6/6/2017 HKT/SIN on MI or 3K connecting to SQ SIN/ADL or direct HKT/MEL on JQ connecting to JQ/QF to ADL

Different agents are giving me slightly different combinations but surprisingly the fares have varied considerably from AUD$2100 to $2300 for the basic LH fare plus add-ons to a whopping AUD$4113 for an all inclusive ticket.

FYI, the $4113 was based on:

NZ - ADL/AKL/YVR
AC - YVR/YYC/YYC
LH - YVR/FRA/LHR/FRA/SIN
MI - SIN/HKT/SIN
SQ - SIN/ADL

Would anyone be able to provide me with the link for the economy fare rules and be able to suggest what the fare actually should be.

In comparison, I have also done some searching online and found the following as a comparison which other than going via Sydney both directions seems more direct.

For Adelaide to Calgary using aircanada.com.au:

25/4/17 ADL/SYD/YVR/YYC (QF730/AC034/AC206)
9/5/17 YYC/LHR (AC850)

$1872.48 AUD

For London to Phuket to Adelaide using emirates.com.au:

31/5/17 LGW/DXB/HKT(EK010/EK378)
11/6/17 HKT/BKK/SYD/ADL (EK4549/EK418/EK5747)

GBP 660.01 = approx. $1054

Any help or suggestions appreciated.
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Old Oct 18, 16, 9:35 pm
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TBH, I am not sure, but I think it was available only in business and first, but will be happy if anyone proves me wrong... I also think that NZ was/is not available on that fare...
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Old Oct 19, 16, 3:17 am
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Just got an update from a travel agent and they have quoted a fare of $2049 for the following routing using this Lufthansa fare in economy:

28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR {NZ}
10/5/2017 - YVR/FRA/LHR {LH}
25/5/2017 - LHR/FRA/BKK {LH}
06/6/2017 - BKK/MEL {JQ}

While I will still need to add-on YVR/YYC/YVR and BKK/HKT/BKK, this seems pretty good value compared to the normal *A RTW. I'm just waiting to see if I can fly SIN/ADL on SQ instead rather than going via MEL.
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