Lufthansa RTW fare rule out of Australia
Dec 4, 2015, 6:46 pm
#1
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Lufthansa RTW fare rule out of Australia
Hi,
Has anyone access to the rules for LH's mini RTW fare for 2015/2016.
They are always hard to find but not accessible currently.
I am interested in knowing which airlines can be used in particular and what are the stopover cities in North America and the fare basis for each airline in case I try to upgrade.
I have used Star1 rtws in the last few years but am not visiting many cities this time so no reason to splurge when the LH or ZH prices are in the range of AUD7000.
I have also steered clear of LH because of its abysmal old J seats but it appears they have been replaced now with better ones.
Has anyone access to the rules for LH's mini RTW fare for 2015/2016.
They are always hard to find but not accessible currently.
I am interested in knowing which airlines can be used in particular and what are the stopover cities in North America and the fare basis for each airline in case I try to upgrade.
I have used Star1 rtws in the last few years but am not visiting many cities this time so no reason to splurge when the LH or ZH prices are in the range of AUD7000.
I have also steered clear of LH because of its abysmal old J seats but it appears they have been replaced now with better ones.
Dec 5, 2015, 1:24 am
#2
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CGN (Cologne, Germany), travel agent, hardcore Sabre user
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I do have access via Sabre, but the rules and exceptions are complicated and span over dozens of pages, so I can't post them here.
You can assume that all Star Alliance member airlines can be used, and there are no specific stopover points. You could fly to and stop in very small and very remote cities.
The fare basis is always the same, so you probably meant the different booking codes for each airline. It's mostly Q, but again there are many exceptions.
If you don't mind to post (or PM me) your intended itinerary I can be more specific.
You can assume that all Star Alliance member airlines can be used, and there are no specific stopover points. You could fly to and stop in very small and very remote cities.
The fare basis is always the same, so you probably meant the different booking codes for each airline. It's mostly Q, but again there are many exceptions.
If you don't mind to post (or PM me) your intended itinerary I can be more specific.
Dec 5, 2015, 9:16 am
#3
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Location: Munich, Germany
Programs: LH HON, DL FO/MM, Marriott Lifetime Platinum, Accor Lifetime Platinum, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 6,174
Actually, it's fairly straightforward looking at the fares in Amdeus.
Here are the routing options via the Eastern Hemisphere:
Here are the routing rules via the Pacific and Atlantic:
One thing to keep in mind with those fares, especially if you route via North America: Many of the routing options are valid, but from our experience at my travel agency, they often do not auto-price, thus requiring a manual pricing.
So if you are using one of the online tools available to price out an itinerary you should keep in mind that these online tools most likely will only price out a fraction of what's possible on these fares.
Fares via the Eastern Hemisphere are available in P/Z/D/C/J; fares via the Pacific and Atlantic in Z/D/C/J.
In addition to the routing rules, keep the following flight application rules in mind:
Here are the routing options via the Eastern Hemisphere:
Code:
1 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/
BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/
DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/
HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
2 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/
BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/
DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
3 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/
BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
4 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/
HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
5 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/
HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
6 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/
HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
7 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-
LH/4U-FRA
8 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
9 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
10 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/
DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/
HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
11 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/
DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
12 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-FRA
13 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/
TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/
4U-FRA
14 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/
TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
15 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/
TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
16 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/
TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/
4U-FRA
17 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/
TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
18 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/
TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
19 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/
SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/
STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
20 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/
SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/
STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
21 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/
SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
22 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-
LH/4U-FRA
23 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
24 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/
NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
25 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-
LH/4U-FRA
26 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
27 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
28 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/
SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/
STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
29 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/
SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/
STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
30 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/
SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA
31 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/
HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
32 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/
HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
33 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-FRA
Code:
1 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
2 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
3 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-
FRA
4 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/
AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/
4U-FRA
5 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/
AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
6 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/
AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-FRA
7 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/
BOG/PTY/CUN-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/
BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
8 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/
BOG/PTY/CUN-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
9 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/
BOG/PTY/CUN-FRA
10 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/
MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/
EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
11 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/
MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/
EW-FRA
12 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/
MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-FRA
13 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/
CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/
CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/
BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
14 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/
CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/
CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
15 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/
CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/
CUN/TPA-LH-FRA
16 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/
CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/
CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/
BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
17 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/
CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/
CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
18 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/
CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/
CUN/TPA-LH-FRA
19 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-CGN/BER/
DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/
HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
20 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-CGN/BER/
DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
21 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/
CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-FRA
22 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/
MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
23 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
24 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-
FRA
25 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-
LH/4U-FRA
26 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/
HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA
27 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-FRA
28 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/
CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-
CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA
29 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/
CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-
FRA
30 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/
CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-FRA
One thing to keep in mind with those fares, especially if you route via North America: Many of the routing options are valid, but from our experience at my travel agency, they often do not auto-price, thus requiring a manual pricing.
So if you are using one of the online tools available to price out an itinerary you should keep in mind that these online tools most likely will only price out a fraction of what's possible on these fares.
Fares via the Eastern Hemisphere are available in P/Z/D/C/J; fares via the Pacific and Atlantic in Z/D/C/J.
In addition to the routing rules, keep the following flight application rules in mind:
Code:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT
ANY EW FLIGHT
ANY 4U FLIGHT
ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS
ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
ANY SN FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN
ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK
ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP
ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN S.W. PACIFIC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX
ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI
ANY AI FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA
AND SOUTHEAST ASIA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ
ANY TG FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG
ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF
ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX
ANY CA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA
ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ
ANY 3K FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3K
ANY BL FLIGHT OPERATED BY BL
ANY VF FLIGHT OPERATED BY VF
ANY GA FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA
ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA
AND SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI
ANY AI FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA
AND SOUTH AFRICA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SA FLIGHT OPERATED BY SA
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICA
AND GERMANY
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTHEAST
ASIA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTHEAST
ASIA AND GERMANY
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.
Code:
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ
ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN S.W.
PACIFIC AND AREA 1 ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ
ANY 3K FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3K
ANY VF FLIGHT OPERATED BY VF
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ
ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN S.W. PACIFIC
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ
ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ
ANY AV FLIGHT OPERATED BY AV.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN AREA 1 AND
GERMANY ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY LH FLIGHT
ANY EW FLIGHT
ANY 4U FLIGHT.
Dec 5, 2015, 10:04 am
#5
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CGN (Cologne, Germany), travel agent, hardcore Sabre user
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, BA, DL, LH, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, AX Centurion
Posts: 445
Dec 7, 2015, 12:46 am
#8
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: CGN (Cologne, Germany), travel agent, hardcore Sabre user
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, BA, DL, LH, HH Diamond, Bonvoy Platinum, AX Centurion
Posts: 445
Thanks for the clarification - I was indeed mistaken. My impression was you wanted to buy the *A economy RTW special and upgrade to business. But you meant to buy a PRCAU/ZRFAU fare. Due to the booking classes these fares are not upgradeable to first, at least not on LH. TK does not participate, and rcs85551 already provided the valid routings.
Dec 7, 2015, 2:03 am
#9
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: BTS/VIE
Programs: LH MM**, HH Silver
Posts: 2,282
Thanks for the clarification - I was indeed mistaken. My impression was you wanted to buy the *A economy RTW special and upgrade to business. But you meant to buy a PRCAU/ZRFAU fare. Due to the booking classes these fares are not upgradeable to first, at least not on LH. TK does not participate, and rcs85551 already provided the valid routings.
Dec 8, 2015, 5:30 pm
#11
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Programs: M&M SEN, Amex Plat, Club Carlson, Marriott, HHonors & Accor Gold, Velocity Silver, Qantas Bronze
Posts: 3,767
Oct 18, 2016, 7:44 pm
#12
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Programs: Krisflyer, Asia Miles
Posts: 115
Just wanted to revive this thread as I'm also looking at this fare ex-Australia but in Economy and would welcome some assistance for the following itinerary:
28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR on NZ connecting to AC YVR/YYC
10/5/2017 – YYC/YVR on AC connecting to LH for YVR/FRA or MUC/LHR
25/5/2017 – LHR/FRA/BKK or SIN on LH connecting to HKT on either TG, 3K or MI
6/6/2017 – HKT/SIN on MI or 3K connecting to SQ SIN/ADL or direct HKT/MEL on JQ connecting to JQ/QF to ADL
Different agents are giving me slightly different combinations but surprisingly the fares have varied considerably from AUD$2100 to $2300 for the basic LH fare plus add-ons to a whopping AUD$4113 for an all inclusive ticket
.
FYI, the $4113 was based on:
NZ - ADL/AKL/YVR
AC - YVR/YYC/YYC
LH - YVR/FRA/LHR/FRA/SIN
MI - SIN/HKT/SIN
SQ - SIN/ADL
Would anyone be able to provide me with the link for the economy fare rules and be able to suggest what the fare actually should be.
In comparison, I have also done some searching online and found the following as a comparison which other than going via Sydney both directions seems more direct.
For Adelaide to Calgary using aircanada.com.au:
25/4/17 – ADL/SYD/YVR/YYC (QF730/AC034/AC206)
9/5/17 – YYC/LHR (AC850)
$1872.48 AUD
For London to Phuket to Adelaide using emirates.com.au:
31/5/17 – LGW/DXB/HKT(EK010/EK378)
11/6/17 – HKT/BKK/SYD/ADL (EK4549/EK418/EK5747)
GBP 660.01 = approx. $1054
Any help or suggestions appreciated.
28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR on NZ connecting to AC YVR/YYC
10/5/2017 – YYC/YVR on AC connecting to LH for YVR/FRA or MUC/LHR
25/5/2017 – LHR/FRA/BKK or SIN on LH connecting to HKT on either TG, 3K or MI
6/6/2017 – HKT/SIN on MI or 3K connecting to SQ SIN/ADL or direct HKT/MEL on JQ connecting to JQ/QF to ADL
Different agents are giving me slightly different combinations but surprisingly the fares have varied considerably from AUD$2100 to $2300 for the basic LH fare plus add-ons to a whopping AUD$4113 for an all inclusive ticket
.FYI, the $4113 was based on:
NZ - ADL/AKL/YVR
AC - YVR/YYC/YYC
LH - YVR/FRA/LHR/FRA/SIN
MI - SIN/HKT/SIN
SQ - SIN/ADL
Would anyone be able to provide me with the link for the economy fare rules and be able to suggest what the fare actually should be.
In comparison, I have also done some searching online and found the following as a comparison which other than going via Sydney both directions seems more direct.
For Adelaide to Calgary using aircanada.com.au:
25/4/17 – ADL/SYD/YVR/YYC (QF730/AC034/AC206)
9/5/17 – YYC/LHR (AC850)
$1872.48 AUD
For London to Phuket to Adelaide using emirates.com.au:
31/5/17 – LGW/DXB/HKT(EK010/EK378)
11/6/17 – HKT/BKK/SYD/ADL (EK4549/EK418/EK5747)
GBP 660.01 = approx. $1054
Any help or suggestions appreciated.
Oct 18, 2016, 8:35 pm
#13
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Tasmania, Australia
Programs: M&M SEN, Amex Plat, Club Carlson, Marriott, HHonors & Accor Gold, Velocity Silver, Qantas Bronze
Posts: 3,767
TBH, I am not sure, but I think it was available only in business and first, but will be happy if anyone proves me wrong... I also think that NZ was/is not available on that fare...
Oct 19, 2016, 2:17 am
#14
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Programs: Krisflyer, Asia Miles
Posts: 115
Just got an update from a travel agent and they have quoted a fare of $2049 for the following routing using this Lufthansa fare in economy:
28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR {NZ}
10/5/2017 - YVR/FRA/LHR {LH}
25/5/2017 - LHR/FRA/BKK {LH}
06/6/2017 - BKK/MEL {JQ}
While I will still need to add-on YVR/YYC/YVR and BKK/HKT/BKK, this seems pretty good value compared to the normal *A RTW. I'm just waiting to see if I can fly SIN/ADL on SQ instead rather than going via MEL.
28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR {NZ}
10/5/2017 - YVR/FRA/LHR {LH}
25/5/2017 - LHR/FRA/BKK {LH}
06/6/2017 - BKK/MEL {JQ}
While I will still need to add-on YVR/YYC/YVR and BKK/HKT/BKK, this seems pretty good value compared to the normal *A RTW. I'm just waiting to see if I can fly SIN/ADL on SQ instead rather than going via MEL.