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ozflier Dec 4, 2015 6:46 pm

Lufthansa RTW fare rule out of Australia
 
Hi,

Has anyone access to the rules for LH's mini RTW fare for 2015/2016.

They are always hard to find but not accessible currently.

I am interested in knowing which airlines can be used in particular and what are the stopover cities in North America and the fare basis for each airline in case I try to upgrade.

I have used Star1 rtws in the last few years but am not visiting many cities this time so no reason to splurge when the LH or ZH prices are in the range of AUD7000.

I have also steered clear of LH because of its abysmal old J seats but it appears they have been replaced now with better ones.

jreichel Dec 5, 2015 1:24 am

I do have access via Sabre, but the rules and exceptions are complicated and span over dozens of pages, so I can't post them here.

You can assume that all Star Alliance member airlines can be used, and there are no specific stopover points. You could fly to and stop in very small and very remote cities.

The fare basis is always the same, so you probably meant the different booking codes for each airline. It's mostly Q, but again there are many exceptions.

If you don't mind to post (or PM me) your intended itinerary I can be more specific.

rcs85551 Dec 5, 2015 9:16 am

Actually, it's fairly straightforward looking at the fares in Amdeus.

Here are the routing options via the Eastern Hemisphere:

Code:

  1 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/                     
      BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                     
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                   
      HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                           
  2 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/                     
      BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                     
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                         
  3 * SYD-LH/QF-BNE/PER-LH/TG-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/                     
      BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                           
  4 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/                     
      HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-                     
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                   
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                   
  5 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/                     
      HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-                     
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                 
  6 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/SQ/QF/JQ/3K/VF-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/                     
      HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                   
  7 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/                     
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                     
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                   
      LH/4U-FRA                                                               
  8 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/                     
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                     
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                             
  9 * SYD-LH/QF-MEL-LH/CA-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/                     
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                               
 10 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                   
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                     
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                   
      HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                           
 11 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                   
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/                     
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                         
 12 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-DPS/HKT-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                   
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/BKK/MLE-LH-FRA                           
 13 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                   
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/                     
      4U-FRA                                                                   
 14 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                   
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                 
 15 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/3K/VF-JKT-LH-SIN/BKK/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                   
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                   
 16 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                     
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/                     
      4U-FRA                                                                   
 17 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                     
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                 
 18 * SYD-LH/SQ/QF/BA-SIN-LH-BKK/JKT/KUL/HKG/SHA/BJS/NKG/                     
      TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                   
 19 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/                     
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                     
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                   
 20 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/                     
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                     
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                     
 21 * SYD-LH/CX/QF-HKG-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/BKK/SHA/BJS/NKG/TAO/                     
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                       
 22 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                   
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                     
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                   
      LH/4U-FRA                                                               
 23 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                   
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                     
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                             
 24 * SYD-LH/TG/QF/JQ/3K/VF-BKK-LH-JKT/KUL/SIN/HKG/SHA/BJS/                   
      NKG/TAO/SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                               
 25 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                     
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                   
      LH/4U-FRA                                                               
 26 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                     
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                             
 27 * SYD-LH/AI-DEL-LH-BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                             
 28 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/                     
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                     
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                   
 29 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/                     
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/                     
      STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                     
 30 * SYD-LH/CA/QF-BJS/SHA-LH-SIN/JKT/KUL/HKG/BKK/NKG/TAO/                     
      SHE/DEL/BOM/BLR/MAA/PNQ/MLE-LH-FRA                                       
 31 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                     
      HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                       
 32 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                     
      HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                         
 33 * SYD-LH/QF/SA-JNB-LH-CPT-LH-FRA

Here are the routing rules via the Pacific and Atlantic:

Code:

  1 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-                     
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                   
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                   
  2 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-                     
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                 
  3 * SYD-LH/QF-SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-                     
      FRA                                                                     
  4 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/                     
      AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/                     
      4U-FRA                                                                   
  5 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/                     
      AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                     
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                                 
  6 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-LAX/SFO/YVR/HNL/HOU-LH/UA/                     
      AC-PTY/CUN/SFO/DEN/DFW/DTT/NYC/WAS/TPA/ORL/ATL/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/SEA/YMQ/YTO/YVR-LH-FRA                                   
  7 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/                     
      BOG/PTY/CUN-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/                   
      BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                       
  8 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/                     
      BOG/PTY/CUN-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                     
  9 * SYD-LH/QF/JQ/NZ-AKL-LH/NZ-BUE-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/CCS/                     
      BOG/PTY/CUN-FRA                                                         
 10 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/                   
      CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/                     
      MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/                   
      EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                 
 11 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/                   
      CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/                     
      MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/                   
      EW-FRA                                                                   
 12 * SYD-LH/UA/QF/JQ-LAX/HNL-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/                   
      CLT/MIA/CHI/SFO/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/                     
      MEX/PTY/CUN/TPA-LH-FRA                                                   
 13 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                   
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                     
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/                     
      BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                       
 14 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                   
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                     
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                     
 15 * SYD-LH/UA/QF-SFO-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                   
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/YVR/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                     
      CUN/TPA-LH-FRA                                                           
 16 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                     
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                     
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/                     
      BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                       
 17 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                     
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                     
      CUN/TPA-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                     
 18 * SYD-LH/AC-YVR-LH/UA/AC-DTT/NYC/WAS/HOU/BOS/CLT/MIA/                     
      CHI/LAX/YMQ/SFO/YTO/DEN/DFW/ORL/ATL/PHL/SEA/MEX/PTY/                     
      CUN/TPA-LH-FRA                                                           
 19 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-CGN/BER/                     
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/                   
      HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                           
 20 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-CGN/BER/                     
      DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                         
 21 * SYD-LH/QF-DFW-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/HOU/NYC/ORL/ATL/BOS/                     
      CLT/MIA/CHI/PHL/YMQ/YTO/MEX/TPA/PTY/CUN-LH-FRA                           
 22 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-                   
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/                   
      MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                                   
 23 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-                   
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                 
 24 * SYD-LH/QF-SCL-LH/JJ/AV-SAO/RIO/BUE/CCS/BOG/PTY/CUN-LH-                   
      FRA                                                                     
 25 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                   
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-                   
      LH/4U-FRA                                                               
 26 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/                   
      HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-FRA                                             
 27 * SYD-LH/QF-NYC-LH/UA/AC-WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ-LH-FRA                           
 28 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/                     
      CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-                     
      CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U-FRA                                   
 29 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/                     
      CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-CGN/BER/DUS/HAM/MUC/STR/HAJ-LH/4U/EW-                     
      FRA                                                                     
 30 * SYD-LH/AC-YYZ-LH/UA/AC-DTT/WAS/BOS/PHL/YMQ/NYC/MIA/                     
      CLT/TPA/ORL-LH-FRA


One thing to keep in mind with those fares, especially if you route via North America: Many of the routing options are valid, but from our experience at my travel agency, they often do not auto-price, thus requiring a manual pricing.

So if you are using one of the online tools available to price out an itinerary you should keep in mind that these online tools most likely will only price out a fraction of what's possible on these fares.

Fares via the Eastern Hemisphere are available in P/Z/D/C/J; fares via the Pacific and Atlantic in Z/D/C/J.

In addition to the routing rules, keep the following flight application rules in mind:

Code:

  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON                                           
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK                                           
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY EK                                           
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                           
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE                         
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT                                                         
        ANY EW FLIGHT                                                         
        ANY 4U FLIGHT                                                         
        ANY OS FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS                                           
        ANY LX FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX                                           
        ANY SN FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN                                           
        ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY SK                                           
        ANY TP FLIGHT OPERATED BY TP                                           
        ANY LO FLIGHT OPERATED BY LO.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN S.W. PACIFIC                   
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF                                           
        ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX                                           
        ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI                                           
        ANY AI FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA                     
  AND SOUTHEAST ASIA                                                           
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG                                           
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ                                           
        ANY TG FLIGHT OPERATED BY TG                                           
        ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ                                           
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF                                           
        ANY CX FLIGHT OPERATED BY CX                                           
        ANY CA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA                                           
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY BA                                           
        ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                           
        ANY 3K FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3K                                           
        ANY BL FLIGHT OPERATED BY BL                                           
        ANY VF FLIGHT OPERATED BY VF                                           
        ANY GA FLIGHT OPERATED BY GA                                           
        ANY MI FLIGHT OPERATED BY MI.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA                     
  AND SOUTH ASIAN SUBCONTINENT                                                 
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI                                           
        ANY AI FLIGHT OPERATED BY AI.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA                     
  AND SOUTH AFRICA                                                             
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY SA FLIGHT OPERATED BY SA                                           
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH AFRICA                   
  AND GERMANY                                                                 
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTHEAST                       
  ASIA                                                                         
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH                                           
        ANY SQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY SQ.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTHEAST                     
  ASIA AND GERMANY                                                             
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.

Code:

  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON                                           
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY TK                                           
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                           
        ANY BA FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN S.W.                         
  PACIFIC AND AREA 1 ON                                                       
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                           
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC                                           
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC                                           
        ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                           
        ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ                                           
        ANY 3K FLIGHT OPERATED BY 3K                                           
        ANY VF FLIGHT OPERATED BY VF                                           
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ                                           
        ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN S.W. PACIFIC                   
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF                                           
        ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                           
        ANY NZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY NZ                                           
        ANY JQ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AREA 1                         
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                           
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC                                           
        ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA                                           
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA                   
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY JJ FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ                                           
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY JJ                                           
        ANY AV FLIGHT OPERATED BY AV.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL BETWEEN AREA 1 AND                   
  GERMANY ON                                                                   
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.                                         
  AND                                                                         
  IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN EUROPE                         
      THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON                                             
      ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING                                             
        ANY LH FLIGHT                                                         
        ANY EW FLIGHT                                                         
        ANY 4U FLIGHT.


klausa Dec 5, 2015 9:44 am

Why is TK exempt from those fares?

jreichel Dec 5, 2015 10:04 am


Originally Posted by klausa (Post 25817931)
Why is TK exempt from those fares?

They are not. TK can be booked using e. g. the YRWSPCL fare (I was under the impression that the OP wanted to book economy and upgrade to business).

rcs85551 Dec 6, 2015 2:41 pm

The OP is talking about the Mini-RTW-fares ex Australia, not the *A RTW fares however...

ozflier Dec 6, 2015 10:44 pm

Thank you for the feedback.

I have confused you .

I want to buy a lh mini rtw not a star special and was looking at codes to see it any flights were potentially upgradable to F.

jreichel Dec 7, 2015 12:46 am

Thanks for the clarification - I was indeed mistaken. My impression was you wanted to buy the *A economy RTW special and upgrade to business. But you meant to buy a PRCAU/ZRFAU fare. Due to the booking classes these fares are not upgradeable to first, at least not on LH. TK does not participate, and rcs85551 already provided the valid routings.

whiskey_sk Dec 7, 2015 2:03 am


Originally Posted by jreichel (Post 25824376)
Thanks for the clarification - I was indeed mistaken. My impression was you wanted to buy the *A economy RTW special and upgrade to business. But you meant to buy a PRCAU/ZRFAU fare. Due to the booking classes these fares are not upgradeable to first, at least not on LH. TK does not participate, and rcs85551 already provided the valid routings.

P and Z can be upgraded on LX, if that is an option.

You want to go where? Dec 8, 2015 8:58 am

Would someone kindly explain what an LH mini RTW is and whether it is avalable anywhere other than Australia?

I searched and found little info at a basic level.

vbroucek Dec 8, 2015 5:30 pm


Originally Posted by You want to go where? (Post 25831499)
Would someone kindly explain what an LH mini RTW is and whether it is avalable anywhere other than Australia?

I searched and found little info at a basic level.

AFAIK, it is available only for departures from Australia. As the name suggests, it is type of RTW, but with rather severe limitations. Still worth using - have been using it for 10 or so years now. This link tells you all you need to know.

soak01 Oct 18, 2016 7:44 pm

Just wanted to revive this thread as I'm also looking at this fare ex-Australia but in Economy and would welcome some assistance for the following itinerary:

28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR on NZ connecting to AC YVR/YYC

10/5/2017 – YYC/YVR on AC connecting to LH for YVR/FRA or MUC/LHR

25/5/2017 – LHR/FRA/BKK or SIN on LH connecting to HKT on either TG, 3K or MI

6/6/2017 – HKT/SIN on MI or 3K connecting to SQ SIN/ADL or direct HKT/MEL on JQ connecting to JQ/QF to ADL

Different agents are giving me slightly different combinations but surprisingly the fares have varied considerably from AUD$2100 to $2300 for the basic LH fare plus add-ons to a whopping AUD$4113 for an all inclusive ticket:confused:.

FYI, the $4113 was based on:

NZ - ADL/AKL/YVR
AC - YVR/YYC/YYC
LH - YVR/FRA/LHR/FRA/SIN
MI - SIN/HKT/SIN
SQ - SIN/ADL

Would anyone be able to provide me with the link for the economy fare rules and be able to suggest what the fare actually should be.

In comparison, I have also done some searching online and found the following as a comparison which other than going via Sydney both directions seems more direct.

For Adelaide to Calgary using aircanada.com.au:

25/4/17 – ADL/SYD/YVR/YYC (QF730/AC034/AC206)
9/5/17 – YYC/LHR (AC850)

$1872.48 AUD

For London to Phuket to Adelaide using emirates.com.au:

31/5/17 – LGW/DXB/HKT(EK010/EK378)
11/6/17 – HKT/BKK/SYD/ADL (EK4549/EK418/EK5747)

GBP 660.01 = approx. $1054

Any help or suggestions appreciated.:)

vbroucek Oct 18, 2016 8:35 pm

TBH, I am not sure, but I think it was available only in business and first, but will be happy if anyone proves me wrong... I also think that NZ was/is not available on that fare...

soak01 Oct 19, 2016 2:17 am

Just got an update from a travel agent and they have quoted a fare of $2049 for the following routing using this Lufthansa fare in economy:

28/4/2017 - ADL/AKL/YVR {NZ}
10/5/2017 - YVR/FRA/LHR {LH}
25/5/2017 - LHR/FRA/BKK {LH}
06/6/2017 - BKK/MEL {JQ}

While I will still need to add-on YVR/YYC/YVR and BKK/HKT/BKK, this seems pretty good value compared to the normal *A RTW. I'm just waiting to see if I can fly SIN/ADL on SQ instead rather than going via MEL.


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