Nov 18, 2013, 3:46 pm
Last edit by: Kat007
First Class elimination:
FRA-DXB as of 01JUN14
FRA-SEA as of 01JUL14
FRA-NRT as of Summer 2014
FRA-KIX
FRA-MCO
Cancelled destinations:
2014
Nizhny Novgorod/GOJ
Ekaterinburg
Khartoum
Ho Chi Minh
Busan
2013
Kazan
Perm
Libreville
Pointe Noire
2012
Rostov
Kolkata
Guangzhou
Calgary
2011
Hyderabad
FRA-DXB as of 01JUN14
FRA-SEA as of 01JUL14
FRA-NRT as of Summer 2014
FRA-KIX
FRA-MCO
Cancelled destinations:
2014
Nizhny Novgorod/GOJ
Ekaterinburg
Khartoum
Ho Chi Minh
Busan
2013
Kazan
Perm
Libreville
Pointe Noire
2012
Rostov
Kolkata
Guangzhou
Calgary
2011
Hyderabad
Lufthansa New/Cancelled Routes and Changes
Dec 7, 2020, 2:40 pm
#1111
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: London, UK
Posts: 5,661
The biggest block to cleaning up the schedule right now is that the authorities have not cleared the way yet: unless the slot decision for S21 is taken (ie the permission is granted that cancellations will not make you lose slots) they will not touch the S21 schedule.
Dec 11, 2020, 6:40 am
#1112
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Denmark, hour drive from BLL
Posts: 140
EN will start flying Munich-Aarhus (DK) from March 29, 2021, three weekly (Mon+Thu+Sun) midday rotations during the first period. Planned to increase to 6 weekly (daily except Sat) rotations further into the year. Scheduled with E195 on EN flight numbers, but with LH codeshare flight numbers. The flights have already been released and are bookable now.
SK has flown the same route back in 2018, but with no great success, partially due to their flights not being codeshared with LH or any other *A airline, and thus no possibility to fly further on from MUC on one ticket.
Article in Danish: https://insideflyer.dk/direkte-rute-...ter-til-marts/
SK has flown the same route back in 2018, but with no great success, partially due to their flights not being codeshared with LH or any other *A airline, and thus no possibility to fly further on from MUC on one ticket.
Article in Danish: https://insideflyer.dk/direkte-rute-...ter-til-marts/
Dec 12, 2020, 6:43 pm
#1114
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: MUC/RJK
Programs: SQ G, LH FTL, UA S, Marriott Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,449
Dec 13, 2020, 2:30 am
#1115
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke on Trent, UK (MAN ), BUE, BKK, DBV
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In the U.K. we already started the vaccinations & they are supposed to be completed by early Summer, USA are just starting & have the capability to complete by next Summer, it is reasonable to expect things to get back to near normal by next Summer.
Dec 13, 2020, 7:02 am
#1116
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: LH HON
Posts: 3,435
I hope so, since I have tickets on LX in F to USA next Summer.
In the U.K. we already started the vaccinations & they are supposed to be completed by early Summer, USA are just starting & have the capability to complete by next Summer, it is reasonable to expect things to get back to near normal by next Summer.
In the U.K. we already started the vaccinations & they are supposed to be completed by early Summer, USA are just starting & have the capability to complete by next Summer, it is reasonable to expect things to get back to near normal by next Summer.
and I doubt vaccinations will be completed by summer... though Id love to be proven wrong
Dec 13, 2020, 12:24 pm
#1117
Join Date: Oct 2019
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 712
So someone kindly explain again since I think someone recently asked but I didn't quite get it...when do they update the schedules/aircraft that will be used starting in March? I know with the winter freeze lots of flights have been changed, especially the switch from 747s to 359s on many routes...but if I want to plan something in March, when will LH reflect the additional changes probably coming / extension of the winter freeze changes? I don't buy that the 747s will be back to North America in March so...
Dec 13, 2020, 1:56 pm
#1118
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,281
US seat load factor is currently at 20%, and the only reason they are flying the current schedule to the US (and adding LH154x flights with an empty cabin) is freight. Ex FRA starting this week they are down to 7 B74H, 7 A359, 11 A343 (including two preighters), 14 A333, 47A32S, 4 EN E95, 9 CL E90, 10 CL CR9. Ex MUC: 5 A359, 16 A32S, 4 CL A319, 14 CL CR9 & 5 CL E95.
Dec 14, 2020, 4:53 am
#1119
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denmark
Programs: TK Elite
Posts: 11,917
Dec 14, 2020, 5:22 am
#1120
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Stoke on Trent, UK (MAN ), BUE, BKK, DBV
Programs: LH HON***,UA,BA.EK Gold,AV.
Posts: 11,752
Dec 15, 2020, 6:56 am
#1121
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Somewhere between BHX and HUY
Programs: Flying Blue Plat, Eurobonus Silver, ALL Gold
Posts: 1,705
Looks like LH deprogrammed the 747-8 on flights to BKK for the whole year 
Do you think I will have any luck asking for my flight (I am due a rebook) to be routed MAN-FRA-ZRH-BKK so we can visit the FCT, assuming that it will be re-opened come November time?
I also see that A availability seems to be zeroed on those dates, (with F being between 4-8). Why would it be F-8 and no A... are they going to give me a hard time rebooking?
Do you think I will have any luck asking for my flight (I am due a rebook) to be routed MAN-FRA-ZRH-BKK so we can visit the FCT, assuming that it will be re-opened come November time?
I also see that A availability seems to be zeroed on those dates, (with F being between 4-8). Why would it be F-8 and no A... are they going to give me a hard time rebooking?
Feb 3, 2021, 12:29 am
#1122
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,281
For the rest of the W20/21 schedule, ops in MUC are down to 4% of the February 2019 schedule. Only 4 A320neo and 3 A319 are operating, which is the minimum to keep the critical crew licenses alive, so that when and if the schedule resumes these crew can do the line checks on the flight crews that come back into operations.
FRA is still at 20% of 2019, but demand for the rest of the W20/21 schedule continues to fall. The 4 A343 that do freighter ops will stop in mid February. Some of that freighter business is operated with A359s.
FRA is still at 20% of 2019, but demand for the rest of the W20/21 schedule continues to fall. The 4 A343 that do freighter ops will stop in mid February. Some of that freighter business is operated with A359s.
Feb 13, 2021, 1:37 pm
#1123
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Location: MUC
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Posts: 48,281
March looks to be equally bleak: MUC will stay at the low level; FRA will get 6 A320 reactivated to go to 40, 4 A343 pax freighters come back and the rest is flown with 7 B748, 8 A343 and 14 A333.
My flight from DEL got changed from an A343 to a B748
My flight from DEL got changed from an A343 to a B748
Feb 13, 2021, 6:04 pm
#1124
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Star Alliance Gold, Oneworld Silver
Posts: 795
Feb 15, 2021, 9:17 am
#1125
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Location: BOS/EAP
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Posts: 32,250
nice! Are they 'selling' F?