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Old Nov 18, 2013, 8:34 am
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Aircraft with new C seats

- All aircraft in operation are retrofitted

How to check if your aircraft has new C seats (up to 8 weeks in advance):
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Business-Class-Product

A333 --> A33Q (retrofit), A33P(linefit) (seatmaps) (19|19):
MUC (8|8): D-AIKE, D-AIKF, D-AIKH, D-AIKM, D-AIKN, D-AIKP, D-AIKQ, D-AIKR
FRA (11|11): D-AIKA, D-AIKB, D-AIKC, D-AIKD, D-AIKG, D-AIKI, D-AIKJ, D-AIKK, D-AIKL, D-AIKO, D-AIKS

A343 --> A34Y (42C 225Y seatmaps)(18|18):
FRA (16|16): D-AIFA, D-AIFC, D-AIFE, D-AIFF, D-AIGL, D-AIGM, D-AIGN, D-AIGO, D-AIGS, D-AIGU, D-AIGV, D-AIGW, D-AIGY, D-AIGX, D-AIGZ, D-AIGP (JUMP)
DUS (2|2): D-AIFD, D-AIGT

A340-600 --> A34R (8F 56C 28E 189Y seatmaps)(22|24):
MUC (19|19): D-AIHB, D-AIHC, D-AIHD, D-AIHE, D-AIHF, D-AIHH, D-AIHI, D-AIHK, D-AIHL, D-AIHN, D-AIHQ, D-AIHR, D-AIHS, D-AIHT, D-AIHV, D-AIHW, D-AIHX, D-AIHY, D-AIHZ
FRA (4|5): D-AIHA, D-AIHM, D-AIHO, D-AIHU

A388 --> A38Q (all FRA based)(8F 92C 52E 336M seatmaps) :
FRA (14|14): D-AIMA, D-AIMB, D-AIMC, D-AIMD, D-AIME, D-AIMF, D-AIMG, D-AIMH, D-AIMI, D-AIMJ, D-AIMK, D-AIML, D-AIMM, D-AIMN

B744 -> 74Q (all FRA based)(53C 32E 308M maindeck upperdeck) (67C 32E 272M maindeck upperdeck)(13|13):
FRA (13|13): D-ABTK, D-ABTL, D-ABVM, D-ABVO, D-ABVP, D-ABVR, D-ABVS, D-ABVT, D-ABVU, D-ABVW, D-ABVX, D-ABVY, D-ABVZ


B748 (74H, all are based in FRA and have new F and C (these are all line fits)(seatmaps)(19|19):
D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD, D-ABYF, D-ABYG , D-ABYH, D-ABYI, D-ABYJ, D-ABYK, D-ABYL, D-ABYM, D-ABYN, D-ABYO, D-ABYP, D-ABYQ, D-ABYR, D-ABYS, D-ABYT (retro jet), D-ABYU
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 6:00 am
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Flight #425 BOS-MUC on 6/7/14 A340-600 question

Hello.

A US Chairman here making his first foray onto "your" thread so please go easy.

Have booked the above referenced flight in Biz.

I’m sure you want to point me to the sticky above but even though I’m a FF, I’m not necessarily up on all the abbreviations and terms used on these forums and industry.

What I think it says is that currently, of the 14 340-600 based out of Munich, only 1 has to date, been retrofitted.

Based upon the expertise and knowledge of the primary posters here who have followed the trends and news of the retrofits, is there a guess as to the chances our June flight may have the retrofitted seats?

Thanks in advance.
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by racefaith
Hello.

A US Chairman here making his first foray onto "your" thread so please go easy.

Have booked the above referenced flight in Biz.

I’m sure you want to point me to the sticky above but even though I’m a FF, I’m not necessarily up on all the abbreviations and terms used on these forums and industry.

What I think it says is that currently, of the 14 340-600 based out of Munich, only 1 has to date, been retrofitted.

Based upon the expertise and knowledge of the primary posters here who have followed the trends and news of the retrofits, is there a guess as to the chances our June flight may have the retrofitted seats?

Thanks in advance.
Chances are slim as you pointed out yourself. The retrofit is moving painfully slow. But LH wants to speed up in 2014. In March/April you will get a better picture I hope.
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 8:55 am
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got it.
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Old Jan 2, 2014, 11:17 am
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Thanks for the response Student Flyer

Being chained somewhat to US for so many years and thier outdated trans-atl business class service, I actaully got somewhat "spoiled" when just a few years back, they updated their 330 fleet to their "Envoy" pod suite which actually seems to be the early version of the new pod that most US domestic carriers are now installing.

Funny that they were about at the bottom for onboard trans-atl service quality forever and then ended up being at the forefront of the retrofit modernization that everyone seems to be doing now.

At 6'4 its tough to go back to a Dentist chair for over-night flights!
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Old Jan 3, 2014, 8:40 am
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GS is in retrofit now.
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Old Jan 3, 2014, 11:40 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
GS is in retrofit now.
Just for my info:

Do you mean it has entered retrofit these last days ?
If, yes what is the normal delay for GC to fly again ?
How many planes can be retrofitted at same time ?
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Old Jan 3, 2014, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by geilux
Just for my info:

Do you mean it has entered retrofit these last days ?
If, yes what is the normal delay for GC to fly again ?
How many planes can be retrofitted at same time ?
GC will never fly again, it was sent to Tupelo for scrapping in November.
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Old Jan 3, 2014, 1:37 pm
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Originally Posted by PlaneHunter
GC will never fly again, it was sent to Tupelo for scrapping in November.
Sorry I meant GS
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Old Jan 6, 2014, 7:44 pm
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EWR-DUS in late June

I will be flying A343 on EWR-DUS route in late June. How likely for it to have new C seats?
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 12:34 am
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Once first 4 new C 343 have been delivered to FRA, DUS will get the new batch of 343s. Starting S14 all 343s will be two class.
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 12:51 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Once first 4 new C 343 have been delivered to FRA, DUS will get the new batch of 343s. Starting S14 all 343s will be two class.
S14 ?? less than 3 months, then they need really to speed up
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 12:53 am
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It seems the A346 ex MUC is mainly used for EWR. Are there any exceptions or how reliable is this? Could the plane techincally also be used for GRU ex MUC? I know the chances are super slim but I wonder if there is 0 chance or at least a 1% chance?
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 1:09 am
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Originally Posted by LAX888
It seems the A346 ex MUC is mainly used for EWR. Are there any exceptions or how reliable is this? Could the plane techincally also be used for GRU ex MUC? I know the chances are super slim but I wonder if there is 0 chance or at least a 1% chance?
I guess a mathematician would say that there is always a chance. Are you being serious or just hopeful?
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 1:37 am
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Originally Posted by sp4294
I guess a mathematician would say that there is always a chance. Are you being serious or just hopeful?
I am being hopeful
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Old Jan 7, 2014, 1:41 am
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It seems KH went to MLA:

http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-aikh

That would mean HR, KG, KH and GS are in retrofit right now.
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