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TWA884 Mar 17, 2024 12:43 pm

I received the following construction advisory a few days ago:

OVERNIGHT LANE CLOSURES ON CENTURY BLVD. AND LAX EXIT RAMP

Activity:

To facilitate work for the Automated People Mover (APM), a temporary overnight closure of Century Blvd. eastbound lanes from LAX to Airport Blvd. (map 1) will be implemented at 11 p.m. on Saturday, March 16 to 7 a.m. on Sunday, March 17.

During this period, vehicles should use the Sepulveda Blvd. detour to access Imperial Hwy. or Westchester Pkwy. to return to Century Blvd.

At approximately 7 a.m. on Sunday, March 17, the closure will transition to Century Blvd. westbound lanes between Airport Blvd. and Vicksburg Ave. until 11 a.m. (map 2).

During this period, vehicles should use the Century Blvd. detour toward northbound Airport Blvd. and Westchester Pkwy. to access southbound Sepulveda Blvd.

Flaggers and signage will be in place to assist with wayfinding and maintenance of traffic, as well as access to local businesses. Please plan ahead for potential delays, always observe posted signage, remain alert and use caution when traveling near construction areas.

Dates and Work Hours:

Century Blvd. Eastbound Lane Closures (Map 1)
Saturday, March 16, 2024 at 11 p.m. to Sunday, March 17, 2023 at 7 a.m.

Century Blvd. Westbound Lane Closures (Map 2)
Sunday, March 17, 2024, from 7 a.m. to 11 a.m.

*Dates and times are subject to change

Map 1

https://images.benchmarkemail.com/cl...ge15476333.png

Map 2

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pmiranda Mar 17, 2024 12:59 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 36087605)
I received the following construction advisory a few days ago:

what list sent that? I checked the lax website and saw nothing, and southwest only sent a generic message about busy flights due to spring break

half the people on our hertz shuttle bailed as soon as we got close enough to have a sidewalk.

TWA884 Mar 17, 2024 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by pmiranda (Post 36087625)
what list sent that? I checked the lax website and saw nothing, and southwest only sent a generic message about busy flights due to spring break

These emails are sent by LAX | Public Relations <[email protected]>. I have been receiving these for years and don't remember how I signed up to receive them. I tried to search and figure out, however, the "manage subscriptions" link is unique to my email address (which is why I edited the link in the earlier post).

You can view all of the Construction Advisories on the LAWA site and on Twitter:

@flyLAXairport


TWA884 Mar 17, 2024 1:42 pm

OK, found it, but it wasn't easy or intuitive.Scroll down to "STAY INFORMED"

TWA884 Mar 22, 2024 12:45 pm

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...6451304a4e.jpg

HL8210 Mar 27, 2024 8:35 pm

A few additional renderings of T9 taken from last year's industry showcase.
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...316c41a73e.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...f68195f115.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...14813e733b.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...bfc080f791.jpg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1130f6316d.jpg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...492b48dbf9.jpg

chrisl137 Mar 27, 2024 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by HL8210 (Post 36115785)
A few additional renderings of T9 taken from last year's industry showcase.

It will probably be completed before the people mover.

TWA884 Mar 28, 2024 7:03 am

T4 construction progress.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...837dbbad71.jpg

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...4fbf294ff2.jpg

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...cac6797ea2.jpg

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...10f84ac302.jpg

LAX2Anywhere Mar 29, 2024 8:52 am

Latest update per LA Times: LAX’s long-promised rail link, the People Mover, likely delayed until late 2025

LAX People Mover

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...yed-until-2025

TWA884 Mar 29, 2024 9:54 am


Originally Posted by LAX2Anywhere (Post 36119588)
Latest update per LA Times: LAX’s long-promised rail link, the People Mover, likely delayed until late 2025

LAX People Mover

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...yed-until-2025

From the linked article:


On Thursday, Fitch projected an Oct. 30, 2025, completion date for the project. The credit agency previously projected an April 2025 completion date and said that “various disagreements and disputes between the parties” and unresolved negotiations over timeline, production and compensation claims led to the negative bond rating.

The project is about 96% complete, Fitch said, but ongoing issues could prolong its completion. The airport and contractor LAX Integrated Express Solutions (LINXS), which is composed of several groups, agreed on a “global settlement that resolved delay claims” last April, Fitch said, but clashes have continued.

chrisl137 Mar 29, 2024 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by LAX2Anywhere (Post 36119588)
Latest update per LA Times: LAX’s long-promised rail link, the People Mover, likely delayed until late 2025

LAX People Mover

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...yed-until-2025

It's going to be an inoperable monument to bureaucracy for the 2028 Olympics.

SoCaltravel Apr 8, 2024 5:38 pm

There is another lane closure on Century Blvd this week - April 8-12 on Century Blvd. Two lanes on both east and west bound will be closed. 24 hour closure.

TWA884 Apr 8, 2024 8:53 pm


Originally Posted by SoCaltravel (Post 36146016)
There is another lane closure on Century Blvd this week - April 8-12 on Century Blvd. Two lanes on both east and west bound will be closed. 24 hour closure.

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...7166e49ce0.png

bocastephen Apr 8, 2024 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by chrisl137 (Post 36121139)
It's going to be an inoperable monument to bureaucracy for the 2028 Olympics.

And LAWA mind-numbing incompetence.

TWA884 Apr 9, 2024 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by SoCaltravel (Post 36146016)
There is another lane closure on Century Blvd this week - April 8-12 on Century Blvd. Two lanes on both east and west bound will be closed. 24 hour closure.

I just received an email that this closure has been extended:


To facilitate work for the Roadway and Utility Enabling (RUE) project, three westbound and two eastbound lanes on Century Blvd. at Concourse Way (between La Cienega Blvd. and Aviation Blvd.) will be closed continuously from Friday, April 12 at 9 p.m. to Monday, April 15 at 6 a.m.

One lane on westbound Century Blvd. and two lanes on eastbound Century Blvd. will be maintained at all times. Access to and from Concourse Way will be maintained via eastbound Century Blvd. at all times (no access via westbound Century Blvd. will be available during this work). A U-turn will be available from westbound Century Blvd. at Aviation Blvd. to reach eastbound Century Blvd. / Concourse Way.

Edited to add that I just received another email alert:


​​​​​​​To facilitate work for the Roadway and Utility Enabling (RUE) Project, all westbound through traffic and two eastbound lanes on Century Blvd. at Concourse Way (between La Cienega Blvd. and Aviation Blvd.) will be closed continuously from Friday, April 26 at 9 p.m. to Sunday, April 28 at 4 p.m.

Westbound Century Blvd. will be limited to local access only, with westbound through traffic detoured via northbound La Cienega Blvd., westbound Arbor Vitae St. and southbound Aviation Blvd. (see Detour Map below).

Two lanes on eastbound Century Blvd. will be maintained at all times. Access to and from Concourse Way will be maintained via eastbound Century Blvd. at all times (there will be no access via westbound Century Blvd. during this work). A U-turn will be available from westbound Century Blvd. at Aviation Blvd. to reach eastbound Century Blvd. and/or Concourse Way.

TWA884 Apr 9, 2024 8:40 pm

Two more traffic advisories:


To facilitate work for the Automated People Mover (APM), 96th St. between Airport Blvd. and 96th Pl. will be closed continuously beginning Saturday, April 13 at 11 p.m. for approximately 2 months.

Access to the Metro City Bus Center will be maintained at all times via 96th St., and access to Budget Rental Car will be maintained at all times via 96th Pl. Through traffic will be directed to 98th St. to detour around the closure.
And:


To facilitate work for the Automated People Mover Project, 96th St. between Airport Blvd. and Vicksburg Ave. will be closed Saturday, April 13 at 11 p.m. to Sunday, April 14 at 9 a.m.

Access to the Metro City Bus Center will be maintained at all times via 96th St. and access to Budget Rental Car will be maintained at all times via 96th Pl.

Through traffic will be directed to 98th St. to detour around the closure.

jerry a. laska Apr 10, 2024 7:34 pm

Only the far left lane (number 1 lane) in both directions on Century was closed today with no construction work active. There didn’t seem to be any effect on traffic.
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...b83c72e52.jpeg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c68f34fb6.jpeg

TWA884 May 11, 2024 11:09 am

Per the March 2025 monthly report of the Landside Access Modernization Program, the APM Passenger Service Availability date has been updated to December 8, 2025.

chrisl137 May 11, 2024 3:39 pm


Originally Posted by TWA884 (Post 36226631)
Per the March 2025 monthly report of the Landside Access Modernization Program, the APM Passenger Service Availability date has been updated to December 8, 2025.

December on big projects almost always really means the following year, but they just don't want to let the year slip for reporting.

TWA884 Jun 12, 2024 2:11 pm

In a city known for traffic, LAX is a standout for its gridlock. Can it be fixed?


A $30-billion overhaul promises to make the experience better before the 2028 Olympics and the airport’s centennial. A glimpse of the elevated tracks of the long-awaited Automated People Mover soaring above the airport teases at the future. But until the system is complete, the chaos that many have endured before takeoff and after landing remains all but inevitable without extensive trip planning, extra time to allow for delays or travel at non-peak hours — especially for first-timers trying to navigate the airport.
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While other major airports, such as Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International, are hubs for connections, LAX is used mainly for nonstop flights. That has led to ground transportation traffic that has only increased as flight travel has expanded and L.A. County’s population has grown from 4 million in 1950 — a year after the airport became an international destination — to 10 million today. Roughly 700 nonstop flights arrive and depart each day, and about 70 airlines fly in and out. The airport saw more that 75 million travelers last year — a number that hasn’t surpassed the pre-pandemic peak in 2019 but has increased from roughly 67 million in 2000 and 35 million in 1979.
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Without a direct public transit connection, such as exists at most airports throughout the country, the bottleneck will get worse with more passengers. And while the horseshoe loop design isn’t uncommon (it’s also seen at New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport), LAX is limited to one entrance and one exit that dumps onto busy Century and Sepulveda boulevards before drivers make their way to the freeway.
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The People Mover could eliminate some of the traffic in the horseshoe by taking passengers to and from airport terminals, the Metro C Line, long-term and short-term parking and a consolidated rental car facility. The $2.2-billion rental car project under construction will house more than 18,000 vehicles in a 6.3-million-square-foot space near the 405. Owner Los Angeles World Airports has allocated $2.9 billion for the 2.25-mile People Mover line, which is expected to open in late 2025.

josephstern Jun 13, 2024 11:31 am

Late 2025 now? Pathetic.

chrisl137 Jun 19, 2024 1:05 am


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 36303077)
Late 2025 now? Pathetic.

My money is still on never.

bocastephen Jun 19, 2024 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by chrisl137 (Post 36315077)
My money is still on never.

Never, as in never underestimate the level of incompetence, sheer stupidity and the dollar value of various bribes and graft thrown around LAWA and its contractors. I'll need a wheelchair by the time that monorail - with plans stolen from MIA - ever actually operates.

lrdpenn Jun 20, 2024 6:48 pm

In their political minds it's probably all acceptable as long as it opens before the olympics. Who cares about the people who actually need to make use of it frequently.

I get annoyed about the LAXit situation but the people I think losing out the most are the airport workers trying to get to public transit. I have tried using public transit on arrival a few times and it's sad that the worst / most frustrating part of the trip is waiting for the slow, infrequent, poorly-dispatched shuttle bus to the bus center or aviation station.

That said, LAWA really better open it by early 2027. Else watch the olympics be during a big heatwave which reveals some issue with the tracks or signaling system causing an epic breakdown

TWA884 Jun 20, 2024 7:07 pm

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Craig6z Jul 16, 2024 4:16 pm

People Mover delay update
 
Snipped extracts from a LA Times article today regarding funding for the remaining People Mover costs [full article may be behind a paywall for some readers]:
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Los Angeles World Airports staff will ask the board of commissioners Thursday to approve $400 million more to settle claims over the delayed project at LAX, according to a board agenda released
Monday. If approved, officials expect the project to finish construction Dec. 8, 2025.

The project is about 95% complete, but disagreements between the airport and contractor LAX Integrated Express Solutions, or LINXS, over timeline, compensation and production led to significant delays.

That increase would also require approval from the Los Angeles City Council.

“Resolution of claims now will provide LINXS the necessary cash flow and incentive to ensure schedule certainty,” the board report states. If the allocation is cleared, the Automated People Mover budget would increase from $2.9 billion to $3.34 billion.








josephstern Jul 18, 2024 3:26 pm

Got the email from LAX - @Craig6z is right - January 2026:


LAX TRAIN EXPECTED TO BEGIN SERVICE

JANUARY 2026


Agreement approved today by Los Angeles Board of Airports Commissioners sets construction completion date of December 8, 2025;Train will start operating for guests and employees in January, with trains arriving at stations every 2 minutes during peak hours


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TWA884 Jul 19, 2024 8:31 pm


SPN Lifer Jul 20, 2024 3:04 pm

The photos show two-car trains. Will that be standard?

bocastephen Jul 20, 2024 3:34 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 36391296)
The photos show two-car trains. Will that be standard?

It certainly better not be - but given the incompetence this project has slogged through from Day 0, it wouldn't surprise me if that's the launch plan.

TWA884 Jul 20, 2024 5:45 pm


Originally Posted by SPN Lifer (Post 36391296)
The photos show two-car trains. Will that be standard?


APM Train Car Fact Sheet

A total of 44 train cars will be delivered to the APM's Maintenance & Storage Facility, which is the operational hub for the train system. During peak operations(9 a.m. to 11 p.m.), 36 trains will run in four-car sets and arrive every two minutes, with the capacity to move 85 million passengers per year.
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Each train car holds 50 passengers with luggage; 200 per four-car set.
Train speed will top out at 47 mph. Trains will be available at each station every two minutes with a total of 10 minutes travel time end-to-end.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...af422ad235.jpg

chrisl137 Jul 20, 2024 8:32 pm

(never mind, didn't see there was another page where TWA884 beat me to it)

bzcat Jul 22, 2024 11:41 am

LAX APM platforms are designed for 4 car operation.

This train is very commonly used in airports in the US. SFO and DFW both run 2 car per train while SEA and LAS runs 3 cars per train as default configuration (they can add extra cars during peak time). I believe LAX will be the first to run 4 cars as standard configuration in North America.

The only 4 car default operation for Innovia APM that I'm aware of is Taipei Metro Brown line.

Craig6z Aug 16, 2024 4:04 pm

City is formally moving forward with throwing more money at the dumpster fire ;):
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The Los Angeles City Council voted Friday to increase the total cost of LAX's significant delayed Automated People Mover from $2.9 billion to $3.34 billion to settle legal claims and set a date of operation for January 2026.

Council members voted 12-0 to allocate an additional $400 million for the project -- a recommendation forwarded by the council's Trade, Travel and Tourism Committee and the Los Angeles Board of Airport Commission."
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L.A. City approves $400M more for LAX Automated People Mover (audacy.com)

pmiranda Aug 16, 2024 4:08 pm

2-car trains should be able to run more often than 4-car trains and would never need "middle" car configurations, but as long as they buy enough cars to have one leaving every 5 minutes or less I won't really care.

N830MH Aug 16, 2024 9:27 pm


Thank you for sharing this with us. I am sure they would be thrilled to see it. Keep us updated on the news as you can.

bzcat Aug 19, 2024 11:07 am


Originally Posted by pmiranda (Post 36457868)
2-car trains should be able to run more often than 4-car trains and would never need "middle" car configurations, but as long as they buy enough cars to have one leaving every 5 minutes or less I won't really care.

5 min will be extremely long head way for airport shuttle. For LAX, I think they should aim for 60 seconds peak and 180 seconds off peak.

I think they have purchased enough train cars to run 4-cars at peak but we will see. This APM line will have extremely high ridership from day 1.

lrdpenn Aug 19, 2024 11:50 am

LAX is probably the airport with the longest passenger operating hours in the US. It's almost silly to separate "peak" vs "non-peak" given the APM needs to serve arriving and departing passengers (it will connect to metro, consolidated rental car, passenger dropoff/pickup, etc.) The only quiet hours at LAX are like 130am to 430am. Their current "peak" cutoff I think starts too late and ends too early.

josephstern Aug 19, 2024 2:55 pm

Is there some "explain it like I'm 5" overview of why this tram is almost complete but due to some labor action, we can't use it for another 16 months?

In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?

I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.

Craig6z Aug 19, 2024 3:16 pm


Originally Posted by josephstern (Post 36464124)
Is there some "explain it like I'm 5" overview of why this tram is almost complete but due to some labor action, we can't use it for another 16 months?

In 16 months, a lot of traffic, noise, and air pollution will be generated. And if this labor dispute is projected to be dealt with by Jan of 2026, why can't we bring that date forward?

I'm sure there are valid reasons, but the bit I know just doesn't add up.

While labor union demands had some bearing along with lawsuits/liens from contractors, ultimately the project was way overbudget, and the City of Los Angeles had to go through the process of voting to allocate a lot of extra money. The City of Los Angeles Government structure is very bloated and bureaucratic, requiring committee hearings and interim vote approval (Trade, Travel and Tourism Committee plus the Los Angeles Board of Airport Commissions), before it can be formalized by the 15-member City Council. The City back in April expected a $475 million overall budget deficit for the fiscal year starting July 1, 2024. Me thinks the $400 million to finish the tram, probably was not fully baked into the negative $475 million.


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