2025 Program Changes - Brazil only?
#16




Join Date: Oct 2024
Programs: LATAM Black Signature
Posts: 62
#17




Join Date: Jan 2024
Programs: Latam Black Signature
Posts: 102
The contrary. All those working in the mines were B/BS for the qualifying segments, not $$ spending.
#18




Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: UA 1k 1mil. Marriott Titanium
Posts: 281
Where did you see 15x as the multiplier?
For US residents its 9x or 6x and need 200k to get to BS so $22,222 or $26,667 usd according to my calculations.
Ive noticed airfares seem to be higher for next year especially between full and business. Last year the gap was as low as 800, this year 1000, next year more than 1200 so roughly 3k round trip. So after 7 roundtrips in biz one would qualify for BS and get 14 upgrades for the rest of the year. These changes seem to benefit international flyers which they have better margins with per passenger.
BS 22,222/14=1,587.286 per upgrade.
Black 11,111/8=1,388.875 per upgrade.
So I ask myself if BS worth it. If they want more BS they should have a separate lounge or something like UA that has a separate lounge for international business.
For US residents its 9x or 6x and need 200k to get to BS so $22,222 or $26,667 usd according to my calculations.
Ive noticed airfares seem to be higher for next year especially between full and business. Last year the gap was as low as 800, this year 1000, next year more than 1200 so roughly 3k round trip. So after 7 roundtrips in biz one would qualify for BS and get 14 upgrades for the rest of the year. These changes seem to benefit international flyers which they have better margins with per passenger.
BS 22,222/14=1,587.286 per upgrade.
Black 11,111/8=1,388.875 per upgrade.
So I ask myself if BS worth it. If they want more BS they should have a separate lounge or something like UA that has a separate lounge for international business.
#19
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wilton Manors, FL
Programs: AA PPro, LA Platinum, CM Silver, NK Silver, F9 Gold, Hyatt Explorist,
Posts: 575
#20
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wilton Manors, FL
Programs: AA PPro, LA Platinum, CM Silver, NK Silver, F9 Gold, Hyatt Explorist,
Posts: 575
I think US based elites will have an advantage over our friends in other countries because, assuming qualifying points earned on Delta will remain as it does today, we will be able to apply all Delta flights to LATAM Pass. The minimum LATAM flights rule is exiting and Delta posts as distance flown X fare class.
On another note, I don’t understand their thinking regarding lowering the Gold and Platinum levels. Gold at 12,000 points could be earned on 1 flight. It seems like there could be double or triple Gold and Plt elites after next year.
On another note, I don’t understand their thinking regarding lowering the Gold and Platinum levels. Gold at 12,000 points could be earned on 1 flight. It seems like there could be double or triple Gold and Plt elites after next year.
#22




Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: SCL
Programs: Latam Black Signature, Hertz Five Star, Marriott Silver
Posts: 30
I think US based elites will have an advantage over our friends in other countries because, assuming qualifying points earned on Delta will remain as it does today, we will be able to apply all Delta flights to LATAM Pass. The minimum LATAM flights rule is exiting and Delta posts as distance flown X fare class.
On another note, I dont understand their thinking regarding lowering the Gold and Platinum levels. Gold at 12,000 points could be earned on 1 flight. It seems like there could be double or triple Gold and Plt elites after next year.
On another note, I dont understand their thinking regarding lowering the Gold and Platinum levels. Gold at 12,000 points could be earned on 1 flight. It seems like there could be double or triple Gold and Plt elites after next year.
went to MIA lounge 3 weeks ago and was full and in the entrance a line of 7-10 people waiting to enter.
#23
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wilton Manors, FL
Programs: AA PPro, LA Platinum, CM Silver, NK Silver, F9 Gold, Hyatt Explorist,
Posts: 575
#24
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Wilton Manors, FL
Programs: AA PPro, LA Platinum, CM Silver, NK Silver, F9 Gold, Hyatt Explorist,
Posts: 575
#27




Join Date: Jan 2024
Programs: Latam Black Signature
Posts: 102
Wow, that is crazy. What flight was it? MIA-GRU? I am black, have a credit card, and will take 5 long flights (out of south America) in the next 3 months. I hope I get the upgrades.
We should create a thread to share upgrade stories to better understand the odds (I know there is a big random factor).
We should create a thread to share upgrade stories to better understand the odds (I know there is a big random factor).
#28




Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: UA 1k 1mil. Marriott Titanium
Posts: 281
#29




Join Date: Jan 2024
Programs: Latam Black Signature
Posts: 102
#30




Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: SCL
Programs: Latam Black Signature, Hertz Five Star, Marriott Silver
Posts: 30
Here I send you a screenshot of the time I saw more black signature together on a waitlist, when I asked SS they told us that a signature used the companions for his entire family.

the route was SCL- GRU last year, before credit cards were included in the upgrade system.
That was an unusual occasion. usually only have one or two Signature on the waitlists.

the route was SCL- GRU last year, before credit cards were included in the upgrade system.
That was an unusual occasion. usually only have one or two Signature on the waitlists.
Last edited by sseron; Oct 31, 2024 at 10:24 am Reason: grammar


