Apr 19, 2016, 5:41 pm
Last edit by: MfromL
This wikipost will include all the announcements related to LATAM postmerger.
Changes:
As of January 18th, 2017, the following planes have the new livery (42):
Routes changes:
2016:
2017:
Changes:
- In April, 2016, LATAM announced new loyalty programmes.
- LANPASS and TAM Fidelidade changed to LATAM Pass (kms based) and LATAM Fidelidade (points based), which eventually will merge into one system.
- New categories: Black Signature (OW Emerald), Black (OW Emerald), Platinum (OW Sapphire), Gold (OW Ruby) and LATAM (no status).
- LATAM Pass adopted a revenue-based model, introducing Elite Qualifying Dollars, following world-wide tendencies (except LATAM Colombia).
As of January 18th, 2017, the following planes have the new livery (42):
- A319: CC-COY, CC-CPE, CC-CPO, CC-CPQ, CC-CYL, HC-CPZ, PR-MAO, PR-MYL, PT-TME
- A320: CC-BAR, LV-BRA, LV-BRY, LV-BSJ, PR-MBS, PR-MHX, PT-TMM, PT-TMN
- A321: CC-BEK, CC-BEL, CC-BEM, CC-BEN, CC-BEO, CC-BEP, PT-XPB
- A350: PR-XTD, PR-XTE, PR-XTF
- B767: CC-CML, CC-CWV, PT-MSY
- B787: CC-BBD, CC-BBE, CC-BGA, CC-BGB, CC-BGC, CC,BGD, CC-BGE, CC-BGF, CC-BGG, CC-BGK, CC-BGL, CC-BGM
Routes changes:
2016:
- New routes: EZE-BOG, GRU-JNB, GRU-MXP, LIM-CTG, LIM-BCN, LIM-EZE, LIM-JAE, MDZ-LIM, SCL-LAX, SCL-LPB, and SCL-MCO.
- Increased routes: EZE-MIA, SCL-JFK, LIM-IAD, LIM-MIA, LIM-MVD, LIM-ROS, and UIO-LIM.
- Cancelled routes: ASU-AGT, BSB-PUJ, GRU-AGT, GRU-JFK, GRU-YYZ, and all Venezuelan routes.
LATAM Argentina will transfer its SCL flights back to AEP from EZE (eff. 01/01/17). LATAM Argentina will transfer one of its GRU flights back to AEP from EZE (eff. 01/02/17). LATAM will operate up to 4 daily flights in the AEP-GRU and AEP-SCL routes.
LA4500 AEP 10:25 SCL 12:45 A320 D
LA4501 SCL 11:10 AEP 13:20 A320 D
LA4502 AEP 18:35 SCL 20:55 A320 D
LA4503 SCL 20:05 AEP 22:10 A320 D
LA4551 AEP 19:05 GRU 22:50 A320 D
LA4552 GRU 08:05 AEP 09:55 A320 D
---LA4500 AEP 10:25 SCL 12:45 A320 D
LA4501 SCL 11:10 AEP 13:20 A320 D
LA4502 AEP 18:35 SCL 20:55 A320 D
LA4503 SCL 20:05 AEP 22:10 A320 D
LA4551 AEP 19:05 GRU 22:50 A320 D
LA4552 GRU 08:05 AEP 09:55 A320 D
Starting March, 2017, LATAM Colombia (4C), LATAM Argentina (4M), LATAM Paraguay (PZ), LATAM Peru (LP) will start flying under the IATA code LA. Number ranges will be accomodated accordingly to reflect this change.
LAN/TAM announcements (routes, planes, etc.)
Dec 6, 2016, 8:57 pm
#16
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: BOGish. VLCish. It's complicated.
Programs: BA
Posts: 683
Eff. 01/01/17 LATAM Argentina will transfer its SCL flights back to AEP from EZE:
LA4500 AEP 10:25 SCL 12:45 A320 D
LA4501 SCL 11:10 AEP 13:20 A320 D
LA4502 AEP 18:35 SCL 20:55 A320 D
LA4503 SCL 20:05 AEP 22:10 A320 D
LATAM will operate up to 5 daily flights between AEP and SCL.
Eff. 01/02/17 LATAM Argentina will transfer one of its GRU flights back to AEP from EZE:
LA4551 AEP 19:05 GRU 22:50 A320 D
LA4552 GRU 08:05 AEP 09:55 A320 D
LATAM will operate up to 4 daily flights between AEP and GRU.
LA4500 AEP 10:25 SCL 12:45 A320 D
LA4501 SCL 11:10 AEP 13:20 A320 D
LA4502 AEP 18:35 SCL 20:55 A320 D
LA4503 SCL 20:05 AEP 22:10 A320 D
LATAM will operate up to 5 daily flights between AEP and SCL.
Eff. 01/02/17 LATAM Argentina will transfer one of its GRU flights back to AEP from EZE:
LA4551 AEP 19:05 GRU 22:50 A320 D
LA4552 GRU 08:05 AEP 09:55 A320 D
LATAM will operate up to 4 daily flights between AEP and GRU.
Dec 26, 2016, 3:03 pm
#17
Join Date: Jun 2013
Programs: OW Emerald SPG Platinum/Lifetime Gold
Posts: 343
Dec 26, 2016, 3:47 pm
#18
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Over the Bay Bridge, CA
Programs: Jumbo mas
Posts: 38,638
Depends on what side of town. EZE without traffic is 25-30 minutes door to door from my place in San Telmo (30 kms). AEP is a minimum of 30 minutes except at rare off hours (11 kms). Taxi fare, however, is a lot lower.
Feb 5, 2017, 7:28 pm
#20
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: São Paulo
Programs: Latampass Black
Posts: 177
So they haven't managed yet to merge their booking systems, crew, websites or frequent flyer programs. I think getting JJ flight codes onto LA is a LONG way down the list!
Feb 6, 2017, 1:21 pm
#21
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: LANPASS
Posts: 368
Most of the website/system integration is pending of the booking system unification... That is a milestone that requires coordinating agendas between LAN, TAM, Sabre and Amadeus, so when any delays are found, the dates are usually moved quite a bit (6 months at a time).
The most recent scheduling for this change (current as of Feb 2017), may or may not be scheduled for Q2 2018 and it may or may not get moved again. Can't confirm nor deny to protect my sources
The most recent scheduling for this change (current as of Feb 2017), may or may not be scheduled for Q2 2018 and it may or may not get moved again. Can't confirm nor deny to protect my sources
Feb 10, 2017, 9:25 am
#22
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Over the Bay Bridge, CA
Programs: Jumbo mas
Posts: 38,638
Well, they never will merge their crew, absent some likely never-to-occur change in the laws of the various LATAM countries. Behind the scenes, this will always need to be several operating companies with one banner that, theoretically, is invisible to the traveling public.
Feb 15, 2017, 9:55 pm
#23
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: São Paulo
Programs: Latampass Black
Posts: 177
Well, they never will merge their crew, absent some likely never-to-occur change in the laws of the various LATAM countries. Behind the scenes, this will always need to be several operating companies with one banner that, theoretically, is invisible to the traveling public.
Feb 17, 2017, 5:30 am
#24
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, SPG Gold, Hilton Gold, Melia Gold, Shangri-La Jade, BA Amex PP, Iberia+, Nandos Card
Posts: 1,523
Worth sharing a brief update on LATAM's A359s - four of the aircraft are being leased to Qatar Airways from the 1st March.
The first aircraft is PR-XTG which will transfer to registration A7-AMA. The aircraft is on a 1 year lease and from March 1st will operate:
QR59 DOH - MUC
QR60 MUC - DOH
The second aircraft is PR-XTF which will become A7-AMB. This is a six month lease and from April 1st it will operate
QR57 DOH - MUC
QR58 MUC - DOH
The third and fourth aircraft are TBC, but will take registrations A7-AMC and A7-AMD and will operate:
QR149 DOH - MAD and QR150 MAD - DOH from April 1st
QR151 DOH - MAD and QR152 MAD - DOH from April 15th
I'm on one of the first MUC - DOH flights so am searching for some trip reports with interest. The source for this info is here by the way. hhttp://www.aeroin.net/quatro-a350-da-latam-serao-repassados-qatar/
The first aircraft is PR-XTG which will transfer to registration A7-AMA. The aircraft is on a 1 year lease and from March 1st will operate:
QR59 DOH - MUC
QR60 MUC - DOH
The second aircraft is PR-XTF which will become A7-AMB. This is a six month lease and from April 1st it will operate
QR57 DOH - MUC
QR58 MUC - DOH
The third and fourth aircraft are TBC, but will take registrations A7-AMC and A7-AMD and will operate:
QR149 DOH - MAD and QR150 MAD - DOH from April 1st
QR151 DOH - MAD and QR152 MAD - DOH from April 15th
I'm on one of the first MUC - DOH flights so am searching for some trip reports with interest. The source for this info is here by the way. hhttp://www.aeroin.net/quatro-a350-da-latam-serao-repassados-qatar/
May 25, 2017, 9:41 am
#25
Join Date: May 2013
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Gold, AF apologist
Posts: 207
Not sure if this is the correct thread, but noticed this morning, that my 7 July JJ 8095 (MIA-GRU) has been changed from a A350 to 777. Disappointed as I was excited to try the A350. Any idea if this a seasonal change? Is the 777 as nice? Thanks
May 25, 2017, 3:04 pm
#26
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: LANPASS
Posts: 368
Not sure on the reasons behind the change, as it may be because of the capacity adjustment that is making JJ retain their 777 for longer than they expected and to dry lease some of the new A350's to QR. It could be a mix of that and seasonal (but it's definitely not an operational change, given than the flight is more than a month away yet)
IME, JJ triple sevens are not as nice of a product as the A350s... the interiors are quite outdated, the IFE is rather old and you don't get the perks you'd get on an A350 (which you wouldn't get on any 777, retrofit or not) such as lower cabin altitude, bigger windows, less dryness in the air after a long flight, lower noise levels, etc.
I find the 777 is a comfortable plane to fly in though, but you'll feel you're flying 15 years ago.
IME, JJ triple sevens are not as nice of a product as the A350s... the interiors are quite outdated, the IFE is rather old and you don't get the perks you'd get on an A350 (which you wouldn't get on any 777, retrofit or not) such as lower cabin altitude, bigger windows, less dryness in the air after a long flight, lower noise levels, etc.
I find the 777 is a comfortable plane to fly in though, but you'll feel you're flying 15 years ago.
May 25, 2017, 3:37 pm
#27
Join Date: May 2013
Location: PHL
Programs: AA Gold, AF apologist
Posts: 207
Not sure on the reasons behind the change, as it may be because of the capacity adjustment that is making JJ retain their 777 for longer than they expected and to dry lease some of the new A350's to QR. It could be a mix of that and seasonal (but it's definitely not an operational change, given than the flight is more than a month away yet)
IME, JJ triple sevens are not as nice of a product as the A350s... the interiors are quite outdated, the IFE is rather old and you don't get the perks you'd get on an A350 (which you wouldn't get on any 777, retrofit or not) such as lower cabin altitude, bigger windows, less dryness in the air after a long flight, lower noise levels, etc.
I find the 777 is a comfortable plane to fly in though, but you'll feel you're flying 15 years ago.
IME, JJ triple sevens are not as nice of a product as the A350s... the interiors are quite outdated, the IFE is rather old and you don't get the perks you'd get on an A350 (which you wouldn't get on any 777, retrofit or not) such as lower cabin altitude, bigger windows, less dryness in the air after a long flight, lower noise levels, etc.
I find the 777 is a comfortable plane to fly in though, but you'll feel you're flying 15 years ago.
Feb 11, 2018, 1:42 pm
#29
Join Date: May 1998
Location: australia
Posts: 5,762
I can say without a shadow of a doubt that LATAM will not service JJD prior to your stated trip
Feb 11, 2018, 6:40 pm
#30
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: São Paulo
Programs: Latampass Black
Posts: 177
There's one upside - the seat when laying down is longer on the 777. Both the JJ A350's & LA 787's have a virtually identical hard product & they are both SHORT. I'm 6'3" (191cm) & the new lay flat product on the A350 & 787-8/9 is too short to lay flat without bending my knees. This isn't a problem on JJ's older 767 & 777 fitouts.