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Old Sep 6, 2006, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by fishintheobx
Old guy next to me had $250 bet on the table and was hot...knocked the kid right off the stool, kicked him in the ribs, and walked away.
The "old' Guy should have been arrested for assault and battery and cooled his heels in jail for a night of two.

This is truely gross.
people can play their cards anyway they like.

Other people's stupid play is just as likely to help as hurt you.
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by writetorich
The "old' Guy should have been arrested for assault and battery and cooled his heels in jail for a night of two.

This is truely gross.
people can play their cards anyway they like.

Other people's stupid play is just as likely to help as hurt you.
Reminds of the "Vegas" episode of Entourage. Vince had something like 3 splits and a double down, with probably around 300K on the table, and the guy next to him splits his 10s. The guy got two more 10s. Dealer ended up having 11, hit twice and busted. If it was me playing, I'm pretty sure the dealer would pulled a 10 right away for a 21
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 12:24 pm
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Originally Posted by EWC-JMU
No, they would'nt. At least not at a higher-grade table.

I think you miss the point. When most gamblers make an obviously stupid move, they hurt only themselves. But with blackjack, when someone makes a move like this, the whole table is put at risk. Plus, it goes directly against the core concept of the game, namely, beat the dealer (and not to get to 21). And both of these cut deep into the allure of blackjack: the belief that you have a greater measure of control against the house.
You'll never get a math professor to agree with you on this. As others have pointed out, the belief that you should be concerned about other players' play in blackjack is but one of many casino fallacies. It's also an annoying and sometimes dangerous one, as your story shows.
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Old Sep 7, 2006, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by writetorich
...Other people's stupid play is just as likely to help as hurt you.
All you need to know on this subject, if truth is the goal, anyway.
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 1:36 am
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I agree that it just doesn't matter what the other players in BJ are doing. Their moves will just as often help you as hurt you, but you have to at least roll your eyes and hate on them.

I managed to sit still today as the kid next to me split 10s twice and erratically played everything else. However, I was awfully annoyed when the dealer showed an 8 and he stood with an A6. Of course when I hit my 14, I got his 10. At that point, I did say "if that next card is a 7..."

Of course, it was and he had no idea what I was talking about. He just went "Wow, are you, like, counting cards?" The only justice was that the dealer drew that 7 to an 86, so our boy lost as well.

C'est la vie.

Not a problem that affects me, but exactly how stupid are people to sit down at a full single deck table? As if the 6:5 BJ wasn't bad enough, they get one hand per deck, pretty much eliminating the benefit of single deck.
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by aceman

Another of my friends managed to lose money with a Royal Flush, think about that one....

Assuming they were playing Texas Hold'em there is pretty much only one option...Your friend didn't know what he had and folded.
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Old Sep 11, 2006, 12:39 pm
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Or he was a bad winner and got mugged in the parking lot.
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Old Sep 14, 2006, 1:31 pm
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Pai Gow Bad beat

Pai-Gow Poker

Playing 2 hands for $100/hand each and had $100 match play on both hands as well.

BOTH hand were full houses, which I played as a pair in the low hand and 3 of a kind in the high hand.

I counted my winnings as I waited for the other players to set their hands.

Then......the dealer reveals his hand. 4 jacks and a pair of aces.

All lost.....

this was 5 years ago, but hey I am over it.
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Old Sep 15, 2006, 2:58 pm
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I was playing at a no limit tournament in vegas. The entry was around 50$. They had 3 full tables. I made it to the final 8. I had about the middle chip stack, some people had more chips some had less. I was dealt pocket aces and raised 3 times the big blind. One guy called, and the next guy raised all in. I of course also went all in, and then the third guy also went all in. So we had 3 players all in and I had pocket aces before the flop. An ace came on the flop so I had 3 aces. Oh baby I was loving it and counting the chips in the pot. However the ace that came on the flop was an ace of spades. One of the other 2 cards was also a spade. Fourth street and fifth street were also spades. And you guessed it both of the players in the pot with me ended up with flushes. So even though I had 3 aces, I didn't even have the second best hand and I was out of the tourny. If that ace of spades had not hit on the flop I would have won the pot with top pair. That was my worst one and still am not over it.
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Old Sep 15, 2006, 3:21 pm
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worst bad beat. 3 players

3 players
I had pocket rockets.
player 2 had pocket rockets.
player three had pocket J's
All in preflop. Player 2 calls. Player 3 calls.
Flop: 2 9 K
Turn: 6
River: J


Best Win:
6 players:
Ended up with a straight flush, knocking out 1 flush (ace high), 1 straight, and the sucker straight flush.
Took out 3 guys in one hand. Player left had enough for a "proper" small blind.
That game (10 players) took only 3 rounds to finish.
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Old Sep 17, 2006, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyingCarpet
Assuming they were playing Texas Hold'em there is pretty much only one option...Your friend didn't know what he had and folded.

It was holdem, he knew exactly what he had, and he didnt fold....
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Old Sep 18, 2006, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by aceman
It was holdem, he knew exactly what he had, and he didnt fold....
A royal flush is literally unbeatable in hold 'em. In fact, it cannot even be tied. Perhaps your friend had a straight flush and lost to a higher or royal straight flush.
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Old Sep 18, 2006, 2:32 pm
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It took me a second to understand why a royal couldn't be tied, but I'm all caught up now.

Anyway... Why all the secrecy about your friend's hand? Can't you just tell us what happened?
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Old Sep 18, 2006, 2:37 pm
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My worst is from a couple of weeks ago in my weekly NL Hold 'em cash game.

I had pocket 3s, opponent had A-K. Flop was A-3-8 rainbow. I checked (sneaky ), he raised, I re-raised, he went all-in.

Naturally, the turn and river were both Kings, giving him the bigger boat. It wasn't even that big of a pot, $$$ wise, but statistically speaking it was the worst beat I've ever had. I think I was a 40-1 favorite or something crazy like that, because somebody else had folded an Ace.

I've, of course, been sucked out pair over pair, or AK vs. AQ, etc. more times than I can count, but statistically that will happen 1 in 5 or 6 times.

Just FYI, Hachem had 7-3 offsuit and flopped 4-5-6 to hit the straight, when the turn came an Ace giving Dannenman top pair, that's when it was all over.
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Old Sep 18, 2006, 2:39 pm
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Originally Posted by aceman
It was holdem, he knew exactly what he had, and he didnt fold....
Then he must have had some kind of crazy side-bet or prop bet going on.
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