The Harrahization of Vegas
Jun 21, 2006, 11:42 pm
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Just got an invite to Caesars "Bacchanal" on August 5th...it is very vague but it is an elaborate looking thing, very different from the constant mailings. It is similar to what they send for NYE. Does anyone know what this is?
Jun 22, 2006, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by dankyone
Just got an invite to Caesars "Bacchanal" on August 5th...it is very vague but it is an elaborate looking thing, very different from the constant mailings. It is similar to what they send for NYE. Does anyone know what this is?
Jun 22, 2006, 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by ExpoTrac
Just back from a week at Caesars - they have removed many of the BJ tables (near the forum shop entrance), and I could only find 1 table with a $10 limit during the week. Was staying 2 days on comp gambler rate, and got a great room in Augutus tower, and then had to downgrade to Forum tower for the rest of the week on a paid rate. The staff seems really confused by the promotions/rates/Reward Credits rules. Got different answers each time I questioned the front desk and Total Rewards folks about earning/using credits, and trying to redeem some of the offers they had sent me.
Interesting that they sent me a promotion for a free Coach handbag a few months ago, and it didn't require earning any points to redeem. Just received a note they "extended" this promotion, but you now have to earn 500 base reward points before you can redeem. One TW rep tried to tell me I had to earn credits, but I showed them the card and got the bag without a problem.
Also interesting that I just completed an online survey asking about all the different rewards programs offered by casinos and how I perceived them and the comps they offered....which was not related to my stay there, came from a random survey group I participate in. One of the casinos must know their program is not up to par...hopefully Harrah's.
Interesting that they sent me a promotion for a free Coach handbag a few months ago, and it didn't require earning any points to redeem. Just received a note they "extended" this promotion, but you now have to earn 500 base reward points before you can redeem. One TW rep tried to tell me I had to earn credits, but I showed them the card and got the bag without a problem.
Also interesting that I just completed an online survey asking about all the different rewards programs offered by casinos and how I perceived them and the comps they offered....which was not related to my stay there, came from a random survey group I participate in. One of the casinos must know their program is not up to par...hopefully Harrah's.
Jun 23, 2006, 5:29 pm
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Originally Posted by dankyone
Just got an invite to Caesars "Bacchanal" on August 5th...it is very vague but it is an elaborate looking thing, very different from the constant mailings. It is similar to what they send for NYE. Does anyone know what this is?
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Dec 19, 2006, 9:41 pm
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Hi, just a bump to ask how the news of Harrah's management acceptance of a $90/share takeover bid by Apollo/Texas Pacific private equity partnership could affect the company's hotels on the Strip.
Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?
Cheers. ^
Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?
Cheers. ^
Dec 19, 2006, 11:40 pm
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Hi, just a bump to ask how the news of Harrah's management acceptance of a $90/share takeover bid by Apollo/Texas Pacific private equity partnership could affect the company's hotels on the Strip.
Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?
Cheers. ^
Could some parts be split, sold or spun off?
Cheers. ^
http://investor.harrahs.com/phoenix....557&highlight=
Dec 20, 2006, 9:46 am
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I "think" they will shed some of the non Vegas/AC properties.
My 1st prediction is that they will dump Caesars Indiana --- it is supposed to be rebranded as Horseshoe (what I have heard) --- and doesn't really fit the upscale Caesars image (especially with the upgrades in Las Vegas and AC [Pier etc. etc.] ) --- and personally, the place is just so darn strange (IMHO).
But, they do still have awesome Video Poker, for a Harrahs Property --- and 20x odds at Dice... so, if you are in the area definitely check it out !
My 1st prediction is that they will dump Caesars Indiana --- it is supposed to be rebranded as Horseshoe (what I have heard) --- and doesn't really fit the upscale Caesars image (especially with the upgrades in Las Vegas and AC [Pier etc. etc.] ) --- and personally, the place is just so darn strange (IMHO).
But, they do still have awesome Video Poker, for a Harrahs Property --- and 20x odds at Dice... so, if you are in the area definitely check it out !
Dec 20, 2006, 8:20 pm
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Dec 20, 2006, 8:45 pm
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ya'know aceman --- are you always trying to one-up me
yeah, we also had 100x odds in Rising Sun, Indiana at Grand Victoria (yes, it is also a Hyatt) --- and double deck pitch with good rules, and 6 deck with good rules and late surrender (but, if you re-call... folks in Indiana like to split those face cards...
)Anyway.... still doesn't beat a good hit and run at the Big Baccarat table at RIO !
My host sent me an email with my play for the 3 days --- RIO is pretty funny --
150/:9
505 win on tbls
the translation : $150 average bet for 9 minutes of play $505 win on a table game.
NOW that is what I call HIT and RUN ! ^
Dec 21, 2006, 1:47 pm
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ya'know aceman --- are you always trying to one-up me
yeah, we also had 100x odds in Rising Sun, Indiana at Grand Victoria (yes, it is also a Hyatt) --- and double deck pitch with good rules, and 6 deck with good rules and late surrender (but, if you re-call... folks in Indiana like to split those face cards... )
Anyway.... still doesn't beat a good hit and run at the Big Baccarat table at RIO !
My host sent me an email with my play for the 3 days --- RIO is pretty funny --
150/:9
505 win on tbls
the translation : $150 average bet for 9 minutes of play $505 win on a table game.
NOW that is what I call HIT and RUN ! ^
yeah, we also had 100x odds in Rising Sun, Indiana at Grand Victoria (yes, it is also a Hyatt) --- and double deck pitch with good rules, and 6 deck with good rules and late surrender (but, if you re-call... folks in Indiana like to split those face cards...
)Anyway.... still doesn't beat a good hit and run at the Big Baccarat table at RIO !
My host sent me an email with my play for the 3 days --- RIO is pretty funny --
150/:9
505 win on tbls
the translation : $150 average bet for 9 minutes of play $505 win on a table game.
NOW that is what I call HIT and RUN ! ^
I think that worked out at 174 Tier points since thats what I seem to have right now.
So that could suggest that playing 206 minutes of baccarat at $150 a hand should be enough to get platinum... Hmmm interesting especially since you could easily get away with not playing for about 15-20 of those minutes.... hmmmm!
Dec 27, 2006, 7:58 pm
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Agree that Harrah's has had a negative effect on the Caesars Entertainment properties. They took a high and some higher end properties and turned them into grinder joints. If the buyout goes through, it will be interesting to see whether the management and management philosophy stay the same or not. I don't know anyone who works or vacations in Vegas who has been happy about the changes instituted at the Caesars properties.
Dec 28, 2006, 10:07 am
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Feb 25, 2007, 5:07 pm
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I thought the claims that Harrahs hates table game players were a bit overblown, until I recently found out that for the same craps play, Harrahs comps 10% of what the old Connection club used to. What Connection would have given you $50 in comps for, Total Rewards gives you about $5.
Totally unbelievable. Harrahs cleared out all of the good video poker machines at Caesards, and now finding out how they (don't) comp on the tables, I won't be returning to any of their properties. I hope this buyout goes through and they do something to restore the Caesars Entertainment properties. Both Total Rewards and the lousy customer service are have driven me and a lot of other people away.
Totally unbelievable. Harrahs cleared out all of the good video poker machines at Caesards, and now finding out how they (don't) comp on the tables, I won't be returning to any of their properties. I hope this buyout goes through and they do something to restore the Caesars Entertainment properties. Both Total Rewards and the lousy customer service are have driven me and a lot of other people away.