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#16
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Actually what you are saying is that at the moment the air fares are too low to allow the EU compensation to take place. If that is the case, I see no other option than for the airlines to increase the fares in order to cover that. Nothing wrong with that as far as I can tell.
On the other hand I agree that those 'no cure/no pay' agencies do have serious downsides, e.g. they are usually not there to help the customer but to help themselves in the first place. So they don't take on cases which may be winnable but would incur too much costs.
BTW: (no offence meant) why is it ok for you (and other knowledgeable people) to claim compensation, but not for everyone?
BTW: (no offence meant) why is it ok for you (and other knowledgeable people) to claim compensation, but not for everyone?
#17
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Now why didn't I think of this novel idea, actually improving service Just indicates my trust in airlines keeping commitments in general I suppose.....
#18
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Personally I think the only regulation that airlines should face is that if a flight is severely delayed or cancelled you can get a full refund. Above that the level of compensation offered by an airline should be one of their own commercial policies, then airlines can then compete on the level of compensation they offer their customers when things go wrong.
Some people would rather pay for a bottom of the line fare and forego compensation and others would rather pay more money and get reliability and reimbursement when things go wrong. Personally I'd go for the reliability any day, but people fly FR and U2 and they'd probably be happier with a cheaper fare, if getting constant compo claims from these companies puts the LCC's out of the picture then a lot of people won't be able to fly.
Some people would rather pay for a bottom of the line fare and forego compensation and others would rather pay more money and get reliability and reimbursement when things go wrong. Personally I'd go for the reliability any day, but people fly FR and U2 and they'd probably be happier with a cheaper fare, if getting constant compo claims from these companies puts the LCC's out of the picture then a lot of people won't be able to fly.
#20
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Travellers are entitled to a reliable service, that is the bottom line and that is why the EU regulations were enforced in the first place.
Of course certain things cannot be planned but these days some carriers are so tight with their aircraft deployment that one substantial delay can cause a ripple effect throughout the whole network and effect thousands of passengers.
I don't see anything wrong with a company that assists passengers in claiming their compensation although one could argue if 27% is a fair proposition.
Of course certain things cannot be planned but these days some carriers are so tight with their aircraft deployment that one substantial delay can cause a ripple effect throughout the whole network and effect thousands of passengers.
I don't see anything wrong with a company that assists passengers in claiming their compensation although one could argue if 27% is a fair proposition.
#21
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The Dutch multinational Philips has announced that they are negotiating with EUclaims to pursue claims on behalf of Philips' employees. Philips says the company loses €26 million every year due to airline delays and cancelations, and that airlines are very reluctant to pay compensation.
Source : Luchtvaartnieuws.nl
Johan
Source : Luchtvaartnieuws.nl
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The Dutch multinational Philips has announced that they are negotiating with EUclaims to pursue claims on behalf of Philips' employees. Philips says the company loses €26 million every year due to airline delays and cancelations, and that airlines are very reluctant to pay compensation.
Source : Luchtvaartnieuws.nl
Johan
Source : Luchtvaartnieuws.nl
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#23
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You obviously have no experience working in or with the Philips organisation. Remember, this is the bloated company that has let every major technological breakthrough they ever made slip through their fingers to be successfully exploited by the competition. Why would they be better at expense and claim management?
#24
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Another novel idea: the airlines could actually improve the reliability of their operations so that they not only avoid paying compensation but also avoid pissing off their customers by weasling out of their contractual commitments.
The airline who doesn't screw up gets to keep ther customers and keep them happy. The airline that does screw up pays fines in the short term and a loss of market position in the longer term as their costs increase, profits decrease and their customers become less loyal.
The airline who doesn't screw up gets to keep ther customers and keep them happy. The airline that does screw up pays fines in the short term and a loss of market position in the longer term as their costs increase, profits decrease and their customers become less loyal.
Give me your address and I'll send the boys with the long white coats around
#25
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According to Luchtvaartnieuws Dutch travel agent D-Reizen will provide free assistance to clients who wish to file a claim. D-Reizen will cooperate closely with EUclaim. The latter say that 30% of successful claims handled by them were initially rejected by the airlines.
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#26
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According to an article in Dutch newspaper AD, EUClaim has handled some 15,000 claims so far, with a success rate of 60%. They will be opening offices in the UK, Ireland and Germany before the end of the year.
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#27
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There was another article, printed in both AD and Telegraaf, that says that since the inception in February 30,000 claims have been filed, the success rate is 1 in 8, and the average pay-out is €445.
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On the flip side, there is also no specific deadline for the airline paying-out the compensation ...
#30
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According to Luchtvaartnieuws.nl EUclaim will take BA, Easyjet and Ryanair to court for refusing to reveal the exact reasons for delays for which they have refused to compensate passengers.
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