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Originally Posted by Threy
Ashley , maybe you are confused a bit...
Chef de cabine, sitting throughout the yield, yelling at pax ? Sounds like good old Air France... Remember, the white planes are Air France, the blue ones are KLM... |
True, now they just hide in the galley the whole flight.
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I realize this is all subjective, but to me the differences betwen KL and AF are quite obvious; it is not a matter of flight-to-flght variations.
I have flown over a hundred flights in Y on KL, until I stopped a few years ago. I've flown at least ten times on AF. AF is a generally excellent airline with good food and a nice accessible-drinks-cart policy but weak ground services. KL is an absolutely awful airline. The consistently rude and unhappy staff (although they brighten up when serving Dutch passengers), the inedible food and the tired fleet add up to a sad comedown for what was once one of the world's top airlines. Of course, maybe this is a reflection of more general trends. The French are temperamental but always interesting; but the Netherlands is a gloomy little place that no longer functions well. |
Originally Posted by kalia960
Of course, maybe this is a reflection of more general trends. The French are temperamental but always interesting; but the Netherlands is a gloomy little place that no longer functions well.
http://www.weforum.org/site/homepubl...04+comparisons Never mix personal preferences with facts! |
Originally Posted by kalia960
I realize this is all subjective, but to me the differences betwen KL and AF are quite obvious; it is not a matter of flight-to-flght variations.
I have flown over a hundred flights in Y on KL, until I stopped a few years ago. I've flown at least ten times on AF. AF is a generally excellent airline with good food and a nice accessible-drinks-cart policy but weak ground services. KL is an absolutely awful airline. The consistently rude and unhappy staff (although they brighten up when serving Dutch passengers), the inedible food and the tired fleet add up to a sad comedown for what was once one of the world's top airlines. Of course, maybe this is a reflection of more general trends. The French are temperamental but always interesting; but the Netherlands is a gloomy little place that no longer functions well. |
Originally Posted by AshleyB
It IS a bit like AF in the olden days (80s early 90s) but they (AF) have improved ALOT.
After experiencing abysmal service on AF in late 2005, I cannot even imagine how it was in the late 1980`s ... Did they have seat cushions, warm food , drinks ? |
Originally Posted by kalia960
Of course, maybe this is a reflection of more general trends. The French are temperamental but always interesting; but the Netherlands is a gloomy little place that no longer functions well. On a related sidenote. We all agree that CDG is simply awful, most of us agree that AF is simply nothing to write home about, but at least France has some people going out on the streets and protest against some dramatic changes. In Germany the latest demo against charges for attending a university gathered a few dozen people who were more interested in the free mulled wine than the demo... |
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