B6 seeking to have KLM barred from JFK in Schiphol slots row
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B6 seeking to have KLM barred from JFK in Schiphol slots row
Originally Posted by NL Times
JetBlue pushing for KLM ban in New York over Schiphol downsizing plans
Airline JetBlue is urging the U.S. Department of Transport to ban KLM from New York’s JFK airport if JetBlue can no longer fly to and from Schiphol. The American budget airline is once again protesting against the proposed contraction that the Dutch government wants to implement at Schiphol Airport.
JetBlue fears it will lose its take-off and landing rights at the airport due to the reduced number of flight movements. Last month, the company urged the government in Washington to retaliate against such a ban from Schiphol by giving KLM less space at American airports.
In a new letter, JetBlue specifically calls for a full ban on KLM flying to and from JFK, John F. Kennedy International Airport. That would be “proportionate” retaliation. According to JetBlue, the American government could also consider temporarily withdrawing certain exemptions for KLM and the airline alliance KLM belongs to.
Airline JetBlue is urging the U.S. Department of Transport to ban KLM from New York’s JFK airport if JetBlue can no longer fly to and from Schiphol. The American budget airline is once again protesting against the proposed contraction that the Dutch government wants to implement at Schiphol Airport.
JetBlue fears it will lose its take-off and landing rights at the airport due to the reduced number of flight movements. Last month, the company urged the government in Washington to retaliate against such a ban from Schiphol by giving KLM less space at American airports.
In a new letter, JetBlue specifically calls for a full ban on KLM flying to and from JFK, John F. Kennedy International Airport. That would be “proportionate” retaliation. According to JetBlue, the American government could also consider temporarily withdrawing certain exemptions for KLM and the airline alliance KLM belongs to.
(Spoiler: B6 would alternatively like to see limitations placed on the Skyteam TATL JV, or at least that 2 slot pairs at AMS are given over by KLM for B6's use in the Summer 2024 season)
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Originally Posted by NL Times
JetBlue may still lose Schiphol Airport slots despite halt to downsizing plans
It remains to be seen whether the American airline JetBlue will be allowed to continue flying to and from Schiphol. The decision to suspend the downsizing of Schiphol does not automatically mean that everything will return to the old way, said slot coordinator Hugo Thomassen of Airport Coordination Netherlands (ACNL), the organization responsible for the distribution of slots.
It remains to be seen whether the American airline JetBlue will be allowed to continue flying to and from Schiphol. The decision to suspend the downsizing of Schiphol does not automatically mean that everything will return to the old way, said slot coordinator Hugo Thomassen of Airport Coordination Netherlands (ACNL), the organization responsible for the distribution of slots.
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One thing that is unclear to me is how the OpenSkies agreement vs available slots is supposed to work.
For the upcoming summer season JetBlue will have to get slots in order to operate. Yet the openskies agreement basically says that these flights may not be limited. The above quote seems to imply that the slot coordinator may still decide (Or has already decided...) to not issue slots for S24 to JetBlue, effectively still banning them to operate.
For the upcoming summer season JetBlue will have to get slots in order to operate. Yet the openskies agreement basically says that these flights may not be limited. The above quote seems to imply that the slot coordinator may still decide (Or has already decided...) to not issue slots for S24 to JetBlue, effectively still banning them to operate.
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While Air India have recently announced a return to Schiphol (recommencing on 17 December), there is still uncertainty as to whether/when jetblue will return....
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One thing that is unclear to me is how the OpenSkies agreement vs available slots is supposed to work.
For the upcoming summer season JetBlue will have to get slots in order to operate. Yet the openskies agreement basically says that these flights may not be limited. The above quote seems to imply that the slot coordinator may still decide (Or has already decided...) to not issue slots for S24 to JetBlue, effectively still banning them to operate.
For the upcoming summer season JetBlue will have to get slots in order to operate. Yet the openskies agreement basically says that these flights may not be limited. The above quote seems to imply that the slot coordinator may still decide (Or has already decided...) to not issue slots for S24 to JetBlue, effectively still banning them to operate.
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One thing that is unclear to me is how the OpenSkies agreement vs available slots is supposed to work.
For the upcoming summer season JetBlue will have to get slots in order to operate. Yet the openskies agreement basically says that these flights may not be limited. The above quote seems to imply that the slot coordinator may still decide (Or has already decided...) to not issue slots for S24 to JetBlue, effectively still banning them to operate.
For the upcoming summer season JetBlue will have to get slots in order to operate. Yet the openskies agreement basically says that these flights may not be limited. The above quote seems to imply that the slot coordinator may still decide (Or has already decided...) to not issue slots for S24 to JetBlue, effectively still banning them to operate.