DUS - LAS with 2 short connections, doable?
Jan 18, 2020, 6:40 am
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DUS - LAS with 2 short connections, doable?
Hi
I can book the following ticket for a very low price, leaving on July 12, back on July 31. It has 2 connections (not ideal) but the overall fly time is not bad (13 - 14 hours).
Connection in AMS is only 45 min and in MAN 1h10m which is very short. KLM of course confirms this is doable, but I am a bit in doubt.
AMS connection might work, I assume same terminal, no passport/security check?
MAN connection is a connection to the US, so here I expect more hassle....
Anyone experience/advice? Thanks!
06:20
Dusseldorf, International Airport, Germany (DUS)
07:15
Amsterdam, Schiphol, Netherlands (AMS)
✈
KL 1852, Embraer 175
Operated by: KLM Cityhopper
Class: Economy Class , selected fare: Light
Transfer time: 0h40
07:55
Amsterdam, Schiphol, Netherlands (AMS)
08:15
Manchester, Manchester Intl., United Kingdom (MAN)
✈
KL 1071, Boeing 737-800
Operated by: KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
Class: Economy Class , selected fare: Light
Transfer time: 1h10
09:25
Manchester, Manchester Intl., United Kingdom (MAN)
12:10
Las Vegas, McCarran Intl., USA (LAS)
✈
KL 4845, Airbus A330-300
Operated by: Virgin Atlantic
Class: Economy Class , selected fare: Light
Total travel time 14h50
I can book the following ticket for a very low price, leaving on July 12, back on July 31. It has 2 connections (not ideal) but the overall fly time is not bad (13 - 14 hours).
Connection in AMS is only 45 min and in MAN 1h10m which is very short. KLM of course confirms this is doable, but I am a bit in doubt.
AMS connection might work, I assume same terminal, no passport/security check?
MAN connection is a connection to the US, so here I expect more hassle....
Anyone experience/advice? Thanks!
06:20
Dusseldorf, International Airport, Germany (DUS)
07:15
Amsterdam, Schiphol, Netherlands (AMS)
✈
KL 1852, Embraer 175
Operated by: KLM Cityhopper
Class: Economy Class , selected fare: Light
Transfer time: 0h40
07:55
Amsterdam, Schiphol, Netherlands (AMS)
08:15
Manchester, Manchester Intl., United Kingdom (MAN)
✈
KL 1071, Boeing 737-800
Operated by: KLM Royal Dutch Airlines
Class: Economy Class , selected fare: Light
Transfer time: 1h10
09:25
Manchester, Manchester Intl., United Kingdom (MAN)
12:10
Las Vegas, McCarran Intl., USA (LAS)
✈
KL 4845, Airbus A330-300
Operated by: Virgin Atlantic
Class: Economy Class , selected fare: Light
Total travel time 14h50
Jan 18, 2020, 6:46 am
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If you are booking this all in one transaction on a single ticket, then yes, "it can be done". However, you may wish to see if you can book a flight from DUS the night before and stay at the airport overnight, as missing your connection in AMS will require them to rebook you and possibly delay your plans.
If you are booking this in some other way - then no, it cannot be done.
If you are booking this in some other way - then no, it cannot be done.
Jan 18, 2020, 8:20 am
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The good news here is that in July the chance of snow, fog, freezing rain or howling gales is fairly low at AMS. On the other hand, there could be thunderstorms.
At MAN I've only ever transfered in the other direction, i.e. US - Schengen, and that was a pain. It involved finding a bus terminal, waiting for a bus, taking a tour around the airport to a dedicated security checkpoint, going through immigrations, and then a long slog through a crowded terminal to the departure gate. My transfer time was similar to yours, and I did make it, but even a slightly late arrival would really have messed things up.
Johan
At MAN I've only ever transfered in the other direction, i.e. US - Schengen, and that was a pain. It involved finding a bus terminal, waiting for a bus, taking a tour around the airport to a dedicated security checkpoint, going through immigrations, and then a long slog through a crowded terminal to the departure gate. My transfer time was similar to yours, and I did make it, but even a slightly late arrival would really have messed things up.
Johan
Jan 18, 2020, 12:33 pm
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You need to do Schengen-non Schengen. Assuming you arrive at C-gates (or if an Embraer bussed to the entrance between C and D) you just have to pass customs between Schengen and non-Schengen which brings you right at D-gates, where your Man flight likely is departing from. Only extreme queues (next to a delay of the DUS flight) can spoil things but then obviously ask gently if you can pass due to short connection if they do not have a short connection lane open. But then the DUS departure is the first flight of the plane that day, so delays not very likely....unless something happens as events described in the thread 'Mess at Schiphol today'.
Jan 20, 2020, 5:32 am
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I don't understand why people are so worried about making a connection. Let's say you miss the connection in AMS to MAN, there are literally tons of options how to travel from AMS to LAS. They will rebook you on the direct flight. Or one with a connection in the US (JFK/LAX/SLC/ATL/SEA/BOS/DTW/SFO to name a few). Same with missing the connection in MAN, heaps of options there too. I really don't understand the worries.
Jan 20, 2020, 10:01 am
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According to Google Flights, the itinary is available to be booked through KLM. https://flights.app.goo.gl/HvJqH
You may want to play with other return flights, but be warned, not all of them could be booked through the KLM website, according to Google Flights.
You may want to play with other return flights, but be warned, not all of them could be booked through the KLM website, according to Google Flights.
Jan 20, 2020, 4:21 pm
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There is also an option to fly to LAX from MAN, with a 5 hour stop over. This is rather long, but in case I miss AMS MAN, there are later flights as well. I might go for this one.
how about return flight: connect 50 mins on MSP?
how about return flight: connect 50 mins on MSP?
Jan 20, 2020, 6:19 pm
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I don't understand why people are so worried about making a connection. Let's say you miss the connection in AMS to MAN, there are literally tons of options how to travel from AMS to LAS. They will rebook you on the direct flight. Or one with a connection in the US (JFK/LAX/SLC/ATL/SEA/BOS/DTW/SFO to name a few). Same with missing the connection in MAN, heaps of options there too. I really don't understand the worries.
East Coast to LAS if one is rerouted to a US gateway are all on narrow body with 3-3 configuration for what is a 5-1/2 hour flight.
Jan 21, 2020, 1:04 am
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First, it's doable.
Second, if you don't have any important matter on 1-2 August (a week-end), I wouldn't really be worried. MSP is one of Delta's hub, they will put you back to Europe one way or another, and any missing XP caused by a rerouting can be claimed afterwards by reaching the FB assistance (call, or even their form on the FB website). As you can see, Delta/KLM/AF have more flights the same day. Once you are in Europe, they will fly you to DUS.
Second, if you don't have any important matter on 1-2 August (a week-end), I wouldn't really be worried. MSP is one of Delta's hub, they will put you back to Europe one way or another, and any missing XP caused by a rerouting can be claimed afterwards by reaching the FB assistance (call, or even their form on the FB website). As you can see, Delta/KLM/AF have more flights the same day. Once you are in Europe, they will fly you to DUS.
Feb 24, 2020, 4:52 am
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The transfer at MAN could be the main problem.
Virgin are T2, KLM are T3.
I don't think that there is a quick airside connection for this. See Manchester Connection Question
Please check this before you book.
Virgin are T2, KLM are T3.
I don't think that there is a quick airside connection for this. See Manchester Connection Question
Please check this before you book.