Weird automatic seat allocation
#1
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Weird automatic seat allocation
Not sure what's going on here. No J? No EC?
Mine is the only occupied seat in the first 24 rows. I had no problems moving myself around to various seats in row 2, which is normally also J.
This is the return leg, for the outbound I cannot even access the seat map.
Johan
Mine is the only occupied seat in the first 24 rows. I had no problems moving myself around to various seats in row 2, which is normally also J.
This is the return leg, for the outbound I cannot even access the seat map.
Johan
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KL1125. Never seen a HV aircraft on that route before. Nor have I ever set foot on an HV plane. How's the legroom in the bulkhead rows?
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Essentially you loose 3 inch if you can book EC for free (or fly J....). Interestingly the KL and Transavia both have 32 full rows so overall density should be similar - I distrust Seatguru in saying KL has 30 inch for regular economy while Transavia is suggested less....where did the 18 extra inch for row 1-6 in KL go? Transavia has further 3 seats in row 1 where KL has a galley.
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See https://insideflyer.nl/klm-leaset-to...van-transavia/ (CPH is included) and https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Tr...ng_737-800.php. next to https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/KL...ng_737-800.php
Essentially you loose 3 inch if you can book EC for free (or fly J....). Interestingly the KL and Transavia both have 32 full rows so overall density should be similar - I distrust Seatguru in saying KL has 30 inch for regular economy while Transavia is suggested less....where did the 18 extra inch for row 1-6 in KL go? Transavia has further 3 seats in row 1 where KL has a galley.
Essentially you loose 3 inch if you can book EC for free (or fly J....). Interestingly the KL and Transavia both have 32 full rows so overall density should be similar - I distrust Seatguru in saying KL has 30 inch for regular economy while Transavia is suggested less....where did the 18 extra inch for row 1-6 in KL go? Transavia has further 3 seats in row 1 where KL has a galley.
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Yes that is what I meant - half a galley less and 3 seats more, that explains the difference between 186 seats at KL and 189 seats at HV in a 737-800. But my puzzle is that KL has 33 inch at row 1-6 and 30 inch in the rest, while HV is claimed to be 29-30 inch for all rows. Does not make sense...a KL 737-800 has the same length as a HV one not?
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Yes that is what I meant - half a galley less and 3 seats more, that explains the difference between 186 seats at KL and 189 seats at HV in a 737-800. But my puzzle is that KL has 33 inch at row 1-6 and 30 inch in the rest, while HV is claimed to be 29-30 inch for all rows. Does not make sense...a KL 737-800 has the same length as a HV one not?
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Just had another look at the seat map. Still wide open, but now the first three rows show as unavailable, and it says
"This flight is operated by Please note that now only a limited number of seats is available. During check-in you can choose from more seats, and reserve seats in the Economy Comfort zone too"
The map does not show any EC rows, and I'm still seated in row 2.
For the outbound I yet again cannot access the seatmap, but I see that I've been moved from an EC aisle seat to a middle seat:
and
Thank you for booking one or more extra options. As soon as your booking and payment are processed, your extra option(s) will be visible as confirmed via My Trip.
Johan
"This flight is operated by Please note that now only a limited number of seats is available. During check-in you can choose from more seats, and reserve seats in the Economy Comfort zone too"
The map does not show any EC rows, and I'm still seated in row 2.
For the outbound I yet again cannot access the seatmap, but I see that I've been moved from an EC aisle seat to a middle seat:
05B Economy Comfort (payment in progress)
and
Thank you for booking one or more extra options. As soon as your booking and payment are processed, your extra option(s) will be visible as confirmed via My Trip.
Johan
Last edited by johan rebel; Oct 20, 2018 at 4:27 am
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Just had another look at the seat map. Still wide open, but now the first three rows show as unavailable, and it says
"This flight is operated by Please note that now only a limited number of seats is available. During check-in you can choose from more seats, and reserve seats in the Economy Comfort zone too"
The map does not show any EC rows, and I'm still seated in row 2.
For the outbound I yet again cannot access the seatmap, but I see that I've been moved from an EC aisle seat to a middle seat:
and
Thank you for booking one or more extra options. As soon as your booking and payment are processed, your extra option(s) will be visible as confirmed via My Trip.
Johan
"This flight is operated by Please note that now only a limited number of seats is available. During check-in you can choose from more seats, and reserve seats in the Economy Comfort zone too"
The map does not show any EC rows, and I'm still seated in row 2.
For the outbound I yet again cannot access the seatmap, but I see that I've been moved from an EC aisle seat to a middle seat:
05B Economy Comfort (payment in progress)
and
Thank you for booking one or more extra options. As soon as your booking and payment are processed, your extra option(s) will be visible as confirmed via My Trip.
Johan