KLM Codeshares
#1
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KLM Codeshares
Apologies if this is a well worn subject. I was scanning Skyscanner (see what I did there) for trips from ORK-MLA and it popped up with
Outbound Sun, 18 Mar 2018
KLM
06:00 ORK 7h 25
1 stop AMS
14:25 MLA
Operated by Aer Lingus, Air Malta
Return Sun, 25 Mar 2018
KLM
07:40MLA 15h
1 stop AMS
21:40 ORK
Operated by Air Malta, Aer Lingus
Now quite apart from that horrible layover in AMS on the way back, when I actually go to the KLM site to check prices, etc, it can't find anything from ORK-MLA, just AMS-MLA. So is Skyscanner lying to me, and the ORK-AMS flight is not actually a KLM codeshare? If I do a global search on KLM, it tells me flights to/from ORK will 'start' on 28th May, but there's a codeshare flight departing ORK at 1650 tonight:
Amsterdam Aer Lingus KL3172 14 Feb 16:50
I can only assume I'm doing something wrong cos computer don't make mistakes, but what is it?! Note that I can't book this flight with EI nor Air Malta either, so who would sell it to me?
Outbound Sun, 18 Mar 2018
KLM
06:00 ORK 7h 25
1 stop AMS
14:25 MLA
Operated by Aer Lingus, Air Malta
Return Sun, 25 Mar 2018
KLM
07:40MLA 15h
1 stop AMS
21:40 ORK
Operated by Air Malta, Aer Lingus
Now quite apart from that horrible layover in AMS on the way back, when I actually go to the KLM site to check prices, etc, it can't find anything from ORK-MLA, just AMS-MLA. So is Skyscanner lying to me, and the ORK-AMS flight is not actually a KLM codeshare? If I do a global search on KLM, it tells me flights to/from ORK will 'start' on 28th May, but there's a codeshare flight departing ORK at 1650 tonight:
Amsterdam Aer Lingus KL3172 14 Feb 16:50
I can only assume I'm doing something wrong cos computer don't make mistakes, but what is it?! Note that I can't book this flight with EI nor Air Malta either, so who would sell it to me?
#2




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If you look this itinerary up on google flights, it says to call KLM.
"Call KLM to book: +44 20 7660 0293Marketed as KL 3170, KL 3399, KL 3398, KL 3173Price includes an estimated airline phone service fee of 22."
My guess is that the codeshare flights exist, but cannot be booked online via the KLM web site.
My guess is that the codeshare flights exist, but cannot be booked online via the KLM web site.
#3
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However, given that KL dropped their codeshares on all EI flights on the DUB-AMS route after KL re-started flights on that route after an absence of several decades, the fact that AF starts CDG-ORK-CDG service - initially only as a summer seasonal service, starting on May 25 - could mean that this codeshare will eventually come to an end.
AMS-MLA is not operated by KLM either - it's only operated by Air Malta (KM). It probably explains why KLM doesn't want to sell this route - none of the flights are actually on KL metal.
Any decent travel agent should be able to sell you this. Here is Tripair.ie's price:
Last edited by irishguy28; Feb 14, 2018 at 9:34 am
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Be aware that if you depart from DUB, and can leave on the Saturday 17 rather than Sunday 18, you can book with Ryanair, direct flights, for 178 (no bags included - but the so-called "KLM ticket" also doesn't include bags.)
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However, given that KL dropped their codeshares on all EI flights on the DUB-AMS route after KL re-started flights on that route after an absence of several decades, the fact that AF starts CDG-ORK-CDG service - initially only as a summer seasonal service, starting on May 25 - could mean that this codeshare will eventually come to an end.
AF CDG-ORK service is great but mainly aimed at French tourist traffic. Has some minor potential for connecting traffic outbound to Asia from ORK in the evening but definitely doesn't work outbound for TATL. Inbound connection from TATL is doable but with a long layover.
Would KL give up the codeshare? Not sure, the early morning flight brings a lot of connecting pax, it's standing room only most mornings.

