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Ditto Jul 9, 2017 1:59 am


Originally Posted by johan rebel (Post 28530099)
Luchtvaartnieuws reports that 50 correctional officers will be deployed at AMS to assist the KMar. The defense department will send troops to ports and land borders, thus releasing additional KMar officers for duty at Schiphol.

Johan

Earlier today sp security was the usual zoo with everything clogged due to secondary checks, took about 20 minutes to go through.
Immigration was a breeze, all 6 KMAR desks were open, and egates working as well, at least they seem to have managed to get one part right...

BigFlyer Jul 9, 2017 2:06 pm

I arrived as a non-Schengen passenger on 4 July at about 9:30 AM at AMS. Zero wait at the passport machines. There was a significant line for the non-EU passport holders.

Xandrios Jul 12, 2017 2:55 am

Priority security at AMS yesterday at 5:30 - a mess. One of the two security lanes closed. Waited about 5-10 minutes in line, and another 10 minutes for my bag that went to secondary. Schiphol app showed 5-10 minutes for regular security, which frankly, seemed about right.

I had just purchased a new lightweight trolley bag that I was basically transporting empty - only a few clothes (without any metal objects) were inside. Whole thing weighted less than 3KG. And you guessed it...it went to secondary. Over there they didn't even ask to open it - just re-scanned and it was good to go.

Few hours later at DUS, bus gate so I had to re-clear security for a transfer - zero problems with the same bag.

Tweeted Schiphol why one of the lanes was closed, while they had promised all to be open - and they said that only applies to after 6AM. Apparently good service, and speedy security, doesn't apply early in the morning. Idiots.

caliform Jul 12, 2017 3:41 am

Unsurprising to hear that despite promised efforts Schiphol can always manage to mishandle security.

Ditto Jul 13, 2017 9:11 am


Originally Posted by Xandrios (Post 28550280)
I had just purchased a new lightweight trolley bag that I was basically transporting empty - only a few clothes (without any metal objects) were inside. Whole thing weighted less than 3KG. And you guessed it...it went to secondary. Over there they didn't even ask to open it - just re-scanned and it was good to go.

I actually saw something interesting the other day, the agent who normally looks at the screen for the x-ray machine stood up to speak to the agent who was doing the secondary inspection, they stood together and spoke for a good minute or two, at which time trays came out of the x-ray machine, waited for a few seconds and then either went to secondary or not, without anyone looking at the screen, makes you wonder...

mfkne Jul 13, 2017 9:51 am


Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 28555833)
makes you wonder...

It's all just a giant version of Madurodam we're stuck in.

travelbits Jul 13, 2017 10:23 am

I prefer Jacques Tati - Playtime 1967...

something like this:

:D

BigFlyer Jul 13, 2017 10:28 am

Went through Sky Priority security in the departure area in the terminal closest to the Citizen M (I think it's departure 3) on July 12th. (I go through that departure area even when flying KLM because in the past, and perhaps now, KLM had people stationed in the KLM terminal departure area looking for oversize/overweight baggage.)

There was zero wait at security. The automated passport gates were working (the ones on the right side, the bank on the left side was not working), and there was about a 5 minute wait there. I think the automated gates leaving are more crowded than the automated gates when arriving as various non-EU nationals are allowed to use the gates when leaving.

I also noticed that Skyteam Elites were specifically allowed to use the Sky Priority security, my (perhaps faulty) memory was that only Elite+ could use it (I'm Delta Silver, so this made me happy.)

Now if only they'd restrict the departure automated passport gates to EU/EEA nationals, it would really be fast. :)

mfkne Jul 13, 2017 10:55 am


Originally Posted by BigFlyer (Post 28556134)
I also noticed that Skyteam Elites were specifically allowed to use the Sky Priority security, my (perhaps faulty) memory was that only Elite+ could use it (I'm Delta Silver, so this made me happy.)

Your memory is correct, SkyTeam Elite (including FB Silver) should no longer have access to priority security.

BigFlyer Jul 13, 2017 11:02 am

I wonder if the signage is different in the security area in the KLM terminal?

My memory was that in the past the signage did not allow Elites (as opposed to Elite+) into priority security. However, as of earlier this week when I was there the signage explicitly allowed Elites. So, if my memory is indeed correct, it seems that they changed the signage to allow Elites.



Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 28556258)
Your memory is correct, SkyTeam Elite (including FB Silver) should no longer have access to priority security.


KLflyerRalph Jul 13, 2017 12:28 pm

Looking back at photo's from the opening of the new 1a security checkpoint, I only now notice the priority lane sign indeed mentions Skyteam Elite.

mfkne Jul 14, 2017 4:50 am

The inability of KLM to consistently implement SkyPriority is just baffling. How effing hard can it be?

BigFlyer Jul 14, 2017 7:45 am

From recent experience Silver elites cannot use the Sky Priority passport control line right before security at CDG (at AMS security is before passport control, this is reversed at CDG.)



Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 28559139)
The inability of KLM to consistently implement SkyPriority is just baffling. How effing hard can it be?


mfkne Jul 14, 2017 8:11 am

But that is how it should be - SkyTeam Elite never was SkyPriority eligible.

BigFlyer Jul 14, 2017 11:02 am

That is correct - Silver entitled to "priority check-in, Priority baggage drop-off, and dedicated Silver boarding." It says nothing about priority security or passport control. https://www.flyingblue.com/about-fly.../benefits.html

I have a theory as to why they allow Elite (i.e. Silver) members access at Schiphol to priority security.

All of the gates are accessible from each of the terminals at Schiphol, i.e., the security checkpoints are shared by all of the airlines. If another airline allowed its Silver equivalents (i.e. 25K miles) to use priority security, it would be unfair if KLM Silvers using the same checkpoints in KLM's home airport could not use those priority lanes. KLM Silvers would be resentful if Silver equivalents on Air Novobirsk could use priority lanes at Schiphol while they would have to wait in long non-priority lines.

In fact, it appears that Oneworld elites with "Ruby" elite status, obtainable with 25K EQMs, are entitled to priority security. See charts labelled "Elite Status Qualification" and "Benefits at the Airport" here: https://www.aa.com/i18n/aadvantage-p...s-benefits.jsp

Unlike AMS, at CDG I believe that the passport control and security is not shared by Air France with non-Skyteam airlines (or if it is, by relatively few compared to AMS) - hence priority security is limited to Golds and above.







Originally Posted by mfkne (Post 28559793)
But that is how it should be - SkyTeam Elite never was SkyPriority eligible.



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