B772: refit new WBC

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Total 772 Fleet - Progress 100% complete
Anticipated Start: Sept 2014
Anticipated Completion: all done.
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 2014                        2015
 Sep Oct Nov Dec Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Okt Nov Dec
 Completed   0   0   1   1   1   2   4   5   7   8   9   11  11 11  13  14  15
 Remaining  15  15  14  14  14  13  11   10  8   7   6    4   4  4   2   1  0
Boeing 777-300ER with new WBC - 92% (11 out of 12)
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 PH-BVA
 PH-BVB
 PH-BVC
 PH-BVD
 PH-BVF
 PH-BVG
 PH-BVI
 PH-BVN (delivered new from the manufacturer March 2015)
 PH-BVO (delivered new from the manufacturer April 2015)
 PH-BVP (delivered new from the manufacturer February 2016)
 PH-BVR (delivered new from the manufacturer June 2016)
Boeing 777-300ER without new WBC - 8% (1 out of 12)
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 None!
Boeing 777-300ER in modification process
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 PH-BVK
Boeing 777-200ER with new WBC - Entire Fleet
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 PH-BQA
 PH-BQB
 PH-BQC
 PH-BQD
 PH-BQE
 PH-BQF
 PH-BQG
 PH-BQH
 PH-BQI
 PH-BQL
 PH-BQM
 PH-BQN
 PH-BQO
 PH-BQP
 PH-BQK
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Old Jul 17, 14, 1:16 am
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B772: refit new WBC

The refit of the B744 is complete. For past discussion see here.

The refit of the B772 fleet will commence in September 2014. Please use this thread to keep track of the progress, as well as any other questions you may have.

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Old Jul 31, 14, 7:06 am
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configuration

Does anyone know if the business configuration is changing to 2-2-2 and economy to 3-4-3 like the 773?

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Old Jul 31, 14, 8:31 am
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I expect Y will go to 10-abreast.
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Old Jul 31, 14, 9:19 am
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I believe the number of WBC seats will be comparable to the current set-up of 35 seats, which means that the number of Y seats will be reduced (unless compensated by switching to 3-4-3 in Y).
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Old Aug 1, 14, 4:11 am
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Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph View Post
I expect Y will go to 10-abreast.
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which means that the number of Y seats will be reduced (unless compensated by switching to 3-4-3 in Y).
I think that's the plan for Y, 3-4-3
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Old Aug 2, 14, 9:48 am
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Thought so! Will be interesting to see. I find their current 777 business class quite small, and regularly full or even overbooked. Shame to see the 9 abreast configuration in Y go, so much more comfortable than 10 abreast.

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Old Aug 17, 14, 3:34 pm
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According to flightradar24 the last 747(PH-BFK) is heading back to AMS from its conversion to the new WBC in PEK. Now KLM's 747 fleet is complete again.
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Old Aug 18, 14, 7:41 am
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I find their current 777 business class quite small, and regularly full or even overbooked.
KL's longhaul J cabins are small compared to most other airlines, regardeless of aircraft type.

I just checked a 777 flight departing tomorrow. Flightstats lists availability as J/4 C/4 D/4 I/3 Z/2. Being interested in a possible upgrade, I gave KL a call. The agent assured me that J is completely sold out, not a seat available. Intersting that they are still willing to sell as many as four seats, then.

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Old Aug 18, 14, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by johan rebel View Post
KL's longhaul J cabins are small compared to most other airlines, regardeless of aircraft type.

I just checked a 777 flight departing tomorrow. Flightstats lists availability as J/4 C/4 D/4 I/3 Z/2. Being interested in a possible upgrade, I gave KL a call. The agent assured me that J is completely sold out, not a seat available. Intersting that they are still willing to sell as many as four seats, then.

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I would check in the lounge as well just before departure, as the load could change nearer the time.
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does anyone know what Economy seats they're fitting? Will they be the same as the 77W Y seats?

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Old Aug 19, 14, 12:01 pm
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does anyone know what Economy seats they're fitting? Will they be the same as the 77W Y seats?

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Yes. The narrow cramped 3-4-3
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Old Aug 19, 14, 2:17 pm
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I would check in the lounge as well just before departure, as the load could change nearer the time.
Thanks for the tip, and I would have done so had I been the pax traveling. In this instance, I hoped up upgrade a friend who is only Ivory, so she has no lounge access. I did check with my regular travel agent, who said that J was zeroed out in their GDS too.

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Old Aug 19, 14, 6:26 pm
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The B772's do get a newer style Eco seat. More in line with the Hella Jongerius WBC seat.
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Ah thanks KLflyerRalph. Interested to see what they have come up with!
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Old Aug 20, 14, 9:07 am
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Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph View Post
The B772's do get a newer style Eco seat. More in line with the Hella Jongerius WBC seat.
I'm sure it will look nice. But I am also sure it will be 3-4-3 an not much more than 31"
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