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Old Mar 29, 2010, 9:11 am
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KLM 747-400s with PTVs now?

Does anyone know if KLM has completed the work to refit their 747-400s (and combis) with PTVs yet? We're travelling yyz->ams this summer.... thanks!
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Old Mar 29, 2010, 12:18 pm
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Welcome to FlyerTalk blue3 ,

I am moving this thread to the KL forum where you should find knowledgeable posters who can address the issue you have raised. Thanks for your understanding.

With best regards,

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Old Mar 29, 2010, 12:25 pm
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I flew "City of Dubai," a 747 Combi from AMS to LAX on 17 MAR and they did not have PTVs - only overhead screens.
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Old Apr 1, 2010, 9:35 pm
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I just flew on a 747 with PTV's a couple of weeks ago... it was OK.. much better to be honest.. I cant recall the plane name.. something with a south american place name I think...?
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 12:37 am
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Originally Posted by festis21
I just flew on a 747 with PTV's a couple of weeks ago... it was OK.. much better to be honest.. I cant recall the plane name.. something with a south american place name I think...?
City of Paramaribo? PH-BFP
Rio de Janeiro? PH-BFR
City of Guayaquil? PH-BFG
City of Lima? PH-BFL
Mexico City? PH-BFM

Quite a few options there.
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Old Apr 2, 2010, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by jetfan
Quite a few options there.
If it was a 744, and not a 74M, it would have been either BFG or BFL.

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Old Apr 2, 2010, 8:21 pm
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Originally Posted by jetfan
City of Guayaquil PH-BFG
Remember now I see the "serial number"... thought BFG was funny... reminded me of Roald Dahl...
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Old Apr 3, 2010, 12:54 am
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So from the above post and other posts we now know the following have been retrofitted:
BFG (all passenger config)
BFN (all passenger config)
BFP (combi config)

Anyone noticed any other planes with retrofit?
This is 3 done, 19 to go...

I haven't been on a KL 747 for about 6 months now, I keep getting 777's and A330's!
Next month I have a business trip planned to the US on a 747, will report back.
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Old Apr 3, 2010, 7:07 am
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Originally Posted by jetfan
I keep getting 777's
My condoleances
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Old Apr 3, 2010, 11:54 am
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BFB - PTVs definitely installed
BFA, BFW - I *think* these both have PTVs now
BFR - definitely not installed

All of the above based on observations during the past few weeks.
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Old Apr 3, 2010, 12:11 pm
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Originally Posted by festis21
thought BFG was funny
B = Boeing
F = Four (as in seven-FOUR-seven)
G = Guayaquil

No, I'm not being funny. KLM, presumably in collusion with the Dutch CAA, have devised a system where their aircraft registrations reflect the aircraft make, type and name. Used to work pretty well in the past, but as the fleet has grown it has become rather contrived and artificial. Sometimes it just can't be made to work, i.e. with aircraft named Jakarta and Johannesburg.

Next time you see a KL aircraft, try to figure out what the registrations "stands for"!

Johan.
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by johan rebel
B = Boeing
F = Four (as in seven-FOUR-seven)
G = Guayaquil

No, I'm not being funny. KLM, presumably in collusion with the Dutch CAA, have devised a system where their aircraft registrations reflect the aircraft make, type and name. Used to work pretty well in the past, but as the fleet has grown it has become rather contrived and artificial. Sometimes it just can't be made to work, i.e. with aircraft named Jakarta and Johannesburg.

Next time you see a KL aircraft, try to figure out what the registrations "stands for"!

Johan.
I was once told the F stands for four but not as in 7 FOUR 7 but in 747-FOUR hundred.

And then I guess the V for the 777-300's (BVA etc) stands for VERY as in very very long or any adjective you would like to apply.
But I digress...

So the balance is based on above feedback:

PTV's installed:
BFB
BFG
BFN
BFP
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 6:07 am
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Tomorrow

Dear friends,


I fly tomorrow PEK/AMS KL 898.

Do you know if this combi has an "upgraded" economy plus front cabin ?

I rode the first flight 897 in Business Class on March 29th, and I noticed that the eco+ cabin did not have screens and so on.

Last edited by jmbfrance; Apr 4, 2010 at 6:08 am Reason: Wrong route ! I wrote PVG, it was PEK !
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 9:41 am
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Originally Posted by jetfan

So the balance is based on above feedback:

PTV's installed:
BFB
BFG
BFN
BFP

I just flew BFH... definately NOT installed...
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Old Apr 4, 2010, 3:56 pm
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Flew Rio de Janeiro on March 31st and City of Jakarta on March 1 and neither had PTV's.

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