KLM 747-400s with PTVs now?
Apr 22, 2010, 6:17 am
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Apr 27, 2010, 2:19 am
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I haven't figured out these abbreviations but I assume it is the Atlanta. It is indeed updated. However, I sat on a first row seat in EC, which all (and probably exit rows in economy) have a drawback. Because these seats have the tables in the armrest, they designed the video controller is such a way it is sticking out , which gives you at least 3-4 cm less width. Not so good when you do not have a small behind 
Not sure why they could not design it the same way as done for the other planes. Anyway, the screen quality was better and it is nice to select your own movies etc on these long flights to Asia.
Not sure why they could not design it the same way as done for the other planes. Anyway, the screen quality was better and it is nice to select your own movies etc on these long flights to Asia.
Apr 27, 2010, 12:40 pm
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http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/KLM-active-b747.htm
PH-BFA Atlanta full pax
PH-BFB Bangkok full pax
PH-BFC Calgary
PH-BFD Dubai
PH-BFE Melbourne
PH-BFF Freetown
PH-BFG Guayaquil full pax
PH-BFH Hong Kong full pax
PH-BFI Jakarta
PH-BFK Karachi
PH-BFL Lima full pax
PH-BFM Mexico
PH-BFN Nairobi full pax
PH-BFO Orlando
PH-BFP Paramaribo
PH-BFR Rio de Janeiro
PH-BFS Seoul
PH-BFT Tokyo
PH-BFU Beijing
PH-BFV Vancouver
PH-BFW Shanghai
PH-BFY Johannesburg
PH-BFA Atlanta full pax
PH-BFB Bangkok full pax
PH-BFC Calgary
PH-BFD Dubai
PH-BFE Melbourne
PH-BFF Freetown
PH-BFG Guayaquil full pax
PH-BFH Hong Kong full pax
PH-BFI Jakarta
PH-BFK Karachi
PH-BFL Lima full pax
PH-BFM Mexico
PH-BFN Nairobi full pax
PH-BFO Orlando
PH-BFP Paramaribo
PH-BFR Rio de Janeiro
PH-BFS Seoul
PH-BFT Tokyo
PH-BFU Beijing
PH-BFV Vancouver
PH-BFW Shanghai
PH-BFY Johannesburg
May 1, 2010, 1:05 pm
#51
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Just flew KLM AMS-YYZ last week. No PTV - in Economy comfort. And I could even barely see the overhead tv from my seat (12A). Miserable experience.
I am planning a trip to Delhi at the end of this year - and would really rather book another flight (e.g. with Jet Airways from Brussels - also significantly cheaper) than not having the video choices. Does anybody know the deal with that flight?
And also - couldn't we find out KLM's concrete plans for retrofitting these 747s? Surely they must have a schedule...
-Stephan
BTW - http://www.airfleets.net/flightlog/?file=result&opp=KLM has an overview of which KLM aircrafts have been flying which routes recently.
I am planning a trip to Delhi at the end of this year - and would really rather book another flight (e.g. with Jet Airways from Brussels - also significantly cheaper) than not having the video choices. Does anybody know the deal with that flight?
And also - couldn't we find out KLM's concrete plans for retrofitting these 747s? Surely they must have a schedule...
-Stephan
BTW - http://www.airfleets.net/flightlog/?file=result&opp=KLM has an overview of which KLM aircrafts have been flying which routes recently.
Last edited by sdspieg; May 1, 2010 at 1:15 pm
May 1, 2010, 2:19 pm
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Do you have a registration or aircraft name?
Then we can update the list again.
KL's schedule is that all are to be completed before the end of the year.
So that's about 1.5 aircraft per month I guess.
Then we can update the list again.
KL's schedule is that all are to be completed before the end of the year.
So that's about 1.5 aircraft per month I guess.
May 2, 2010, 7:29 am
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My equipment was again switched up at the last moment and I flew YYZ-AMS a week ago Friday on PH-BFN. Very nice new interior with excellent PTV. The only problem was the PTV electronics froze about 2 hours into the flight and they had to be reset for everyone...a process which took approximately 45 minutes.
May 4, 2010, 1:36 pm
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PTV's installed:
BFA (all passenger)
BFB (all passenger)
BFG (all passenger)
BFL (all passenger)
BFN (all passenger)
BFP (combi)
BFV (combi)
No PTV's installed:
BFH (currently all passenger)
BFI (combi)
BFM (combi)
BFO (combi)
BFR (combi)
Not sure:
BFC (combi)
BFD (combi)
BFE (combi)
BFF (combi)
BFK (combi)
BFS (combi)
BFT (combi)
BFU (combi)
BFW (combi)
BFY (combi)
May 5, 2010, 3:31 am
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So the next time somebody has some time left over at AMS, why not stroll past gates with arriving 747's and check up? :P Might be the fastest way to get things clear 
Too bad 747's rarely appear at the Shengen pier, otherwise I'd have tried this weekend.
Too bad 747's rarely appear at the Shengen pier, otherwise I'd have tried this weekend.
May 7, 2010, 3:08 pm
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Thanks to two new posts.
PTV's installed:
BFA (all passenger)
BFB (all passenger)
BFG (all passenger)
BFK (combi)
BFL (all passenger)
BFN (all passenger)
BFP (combi)
BFS (combi)
BFT (combi)
BFV (combi)
No PTV's installed:
BFH (currently all passenger)
BFI (combi)
BFM (combi)
BFO (combi)
BFR (combi)
Not sure:
BFC (combi)
BFD (combi)
BFE (combi)
BFF (combi)
BFU (combi)
BFW (combi)
BFY (combi)
PTV's installed:
BFA (all passenger)
BFB (all passenger)
BFG (all passenger)
BFK (combi)
BFL (all passenger)
BFN (all passenger)
BFP (combi)
BFS (combi)
BFT (combi)
BFV (combi)
No PTV's installed:
BFH (currently all passenger)
BFI (combi)
BFM (combi)
BFO (combi)
BFR (combi)
Not sure:
BFC (combi)
BFD (combi)
BFE (combi)
BFF (combi)
BFU (combi)
BFW (combi)
BFY (combi)
Last edited by jetfan; May 8, 2010 at 2:12 am Reason: new update