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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:16 am
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E-190 Legroom

I'm on a flight tonight from IAD to MCO...a/c is the E-190. When I booked the ticket, I was expecting an A-320 with the 34-36''+ legroom. JetBlue says the back rows on the E-190 have 33''. Anyone know what the exit-row has?

Correct, me if I'm wrong, but JetBlue hands out the Exit Rows at the airport, right?

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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:17 am
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http://www.jetblue.com/about/whyyoul...erseatmap.html

Exit rows can be reserved during booking. I do it all the time. (And occasionally check the seatmap to see when one opens up.)

(The E190 only has one row, though)

If it makes you feel better, what you lost in pitch, you gained in width (almost half an inch wider than the A320 seats, and you are guaranteed to get satellite radio, too.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:18 am
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They give out the exit rows during booking? Last time I fly B6 on an E-190 probably. I took this flight because I figured it was an A-320 and the they were just murdering AirTran on the price, and I figured with just a little less room on B6 than AirTran J-class...

Damn.

Also annoys me that B6 tells you how much legroom is in each seat...experienced travelers who do research should get the good seats, not the damn tourists. I'm gonna be pissed if the Disney World crew is in the Exit Row.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:25 am
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Originally Posted by CitrusMCO
Also annoys me that B6 tells you how much legroom is in each seat...experienced travelers who do research should get the good seats, not the damn tourists. I'm gonna be pissed if the Disney World crew is in the Exit Row.
Well considering that I had to do the research FOR you....

Why don't you go try to change your seat right now on jetblue.com? Iit will let you know immediately if the exit row is available right now....you might be moaning about nothing right now. Besides, its a relatively short flight.

At least the Disney World crew is happy about getting on the plane...
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:39 am
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Well you didn't do the research for me. You told me what I knew already excepting that they book exit rows rather than assign them at the airport. I had already seen their seat map as well as SeatGuru's. What I was looking for was if someone knew the exact pitch.

I've already checked the seat map, but I'll check again before I leave for IAD. What annoys me is that B6 talks about their great seat pitch, but that's only on the A-320. I would not have booked this flight if I had know it would be an E-190...I'd have flown AirTran J-class and paid the higher fare.

I had a lovely experience on B6 MCO-JFK with the 36'' pitch and I thought I'd get the same thing here...obviously wrong. 36'' seat pitch is fine, but 32/33'' is borderline at best. IAD-MCO is a 2 hr, 20 min flight, and in 32/33'' pitch for someone that's 6'7, that's not a short flight.

I'll make do...don't want to sound all whiny, but I do not like airlines that give away the exits online. Unless I am totally wrong about this E-190 flight experience, B6 won't be getting my business on anything that I am not positive is an A-320 route.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 10:42 am
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I appreciate the help though.

Thanks!
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:12 am
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Originally Posted by CitrusMCO
I'll make do...don't want to sound all whiny, but I do not like airlines that give away the exits online.
Why?
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:13 am
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Originally Posted by CitrusMCO
What annoys me is that B6 talks about their great seat pitch, but that's only on the A-320.
Actually, no.

B6 only advertises that they have the most pitch compared to the industry standard. And 33" (for me who is 5'11") is particularly great on the E190 when your seat is a bit wider.

So no false advertising here.

Where your complaint, however, is most valid (and I think implied by your "if I had known" complaint) is that nowhere in the booking process is the aircraft type made clear.

Based on the flight number, I would have guessed it was an A320. Most of the E190 flight numbers have four digits, but IAD-MCO does not. Perhaps it is a mixed use route. But regardless, its bad enough you can't pick your seat until after purchase...I don't know why B6 hides the ball even during the online booking process.

As pointed out by many a cheerleader (and I am not one) you can always call the 1-800 # to ask about seat availability/aircraft type before you end up booking online. Nevertheless, thats an unnecessary hassle.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 11:29 am
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cant comment on the 190, but Ive been on both of ATs 717 & 737 and found although their Biz is 2x2 and coach 3x3 (717 is 2 x 3) that theres alot more leg room in ATs Exit Row then in their Biz rows. sat once in Biz and everytime after in coach, on that hard seat not that Biz is much better.

If the 190 is anywhere near to the 320s seats , Id rather be on JB then AT any day of the week. Once I use up the 2 remaining free tkts, Ill only fly AT if they are the only ones using a MainLine to that destination or are so much less expensive then anyone else to get me to where Im going.


BTW only way to get the Exit Row on AT is at the Airport, yet if Im flying back the next day, I was able when getting Exit on my Outbound to have them reserve/block the Exit for the next days Inbound
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Old May 4, 2007 | 12:26 pm
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32/33" pitch still beats most airlines 30-31" pitch...and one startups' 28"
Not to mention there is no middle seat, the seat is leather and wide and you have the best IFE in the sky.

36" seat pitch is not so important on the E190, as it is used on mostly shorter routes. IAD-MCO is a "medium" length flight and it won't be so bad
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Old May 4, 2007 | 1:25 pm
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Originally Posted by CitrusMCO
I'm on a flight tonight from IAD to MCO...a/c is the E-190. When I booked the ticket, I was expecting an A-320 with the 34-36''+ legroom. JetBlue says the back rows on the E-190 have 33''. Anyone know what the exit-row has?

Correct, me if I'm wrong, but JetBlue hands out the Exit Rows at the airport, right?

Thanks!
If flying on an E190 and not getting the exit seat is your biggest problem then I really want to live in your world.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dietcoke
If flying on an E190 and not getting the exit seat is your biggest problem then I really want to live in your world.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 4:36 pm
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I'm sure you are alrady on the flight to MCO, but I just brought that aircraft down from BOS. Great aircraft as it is one of our newer 190s. The leg room is about 33" and I feel it is plenty comfortable. I'm not a really tall person but I can strech out and be extremely comfortable! Enjoy the flight down!!!
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Old May 5, 2007 | 1:49 pm
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Hey - Yeah, the flight was great actually. I did get an exit row surprsingly enough...the guy at the gate counter told me they normally have them to give away for folks that ask. As always, B6 service was great, flight was good. I did forget to look at the name on the plane though...all in all, great flight. We'll see how it is going back. The Exit had the same amount of legroom as FL business, but obviously less width. I had mixed feelings about the little arm-rest on the emergency exit door, but it didn't bother me much.

Depending on the comfort of the return flight (assuming I don't have an exit), B6 may have a new frequent flyer. I mildly missed some of the perks of FL j-class (priority boarding/deplaning, free alcohol, one FA for the business section), but the B6 price and overall service is much better. If only they flew from DCA, which is why I tend to fly AirTran. Dulles is a bit of a hassle for late afternoon flights. Definitely was happy with the flight though...very good.

Defiance - You're very much spot on about the booking. The other LCCs do the same thing it seems...only the legacies seem to show you what you're buying.

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Old May 5, 2007 | 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by jetBlueNYFL
32/33" pitch still beats most airlines 30-31" pitch...and one startups' 28"
Not to mention there is no middle seat, the seat is leather and wide and you have the best IFE in the sky.

36" seat pitch is not so important on the E190, as it is used on mostly shorter routes. IAD-MCO is a "medium" length flight and it won't be so bad
No argument from me, but I was honestly in a lot of pain one time when I was in FL coach with their 30'' pitch and stuck in a window near the rear of a 717...it was very unpleasant. 32'' is the bare minimum I care to suffer, and 34'' is what I need to be comfortable...again, I'm 6'7.

The lack of a middle seat was very nice...I really liked the set-up. Like I said above, if I'm comfortable in one of the non-exit seats, I'll probably start flying B6 regularly, especially the 190s. I really loved the lack of the middle seat, as I prefer windows, but normally take the aisle if there's a middle, in case I need to get up.

As to 28'', I am betting on Skybus being under within 2 years, unless they really jumpstart a route network outside of CMH. There's various reasons why they may go under...I doubt 28'' pitch is a major one, but I also know that no regular flyer is going to book with them for various reasons, of which the pitch is just one. I imagine vacation flyers will be willing to suffer that once a year for those cheap fares, but you'll never find me on Skybus.
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