SIM Card at NRT
#16


Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 1,033
Hi everybody.
One month ago I pre-booked a SoftBank 3G sim card that I'll pick up at NRT next week.
Just today I received the confirmation along with this quote
"Please be advised that a pre-authorization of 40,000Yen per phone(SIM card) has been processed on your credit card for security of payment."
I checked and this was specified in the FAQs... but ouch that's 300€
so be prepared just in case your credit line is not too high
cheers
maclover
One month ago I pre-booked a SoftBank 3G sim card that I'll pick up at NRT next week.
Just today I received the confirmation along with this quote
"Please be advised that a pre-authorization of 40,000Yen per phone(SIM card) has been processed on your credit card for security of payment."
I checked and this was specified in the FAQs... but ouch that's 300€

so be prepared just in case your credit line is not too high
cheers
maclover
#17
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Join Date: May 2009
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I got to NRT and was on my way to having a SIM card, then she saw my BlackBerry Bold and pointed to some crudle printed and taped over note about "No smartphone, no iPhone"
I left it at that and moved along. My advice, just rent the damn SIM and dont show them what phone you plan to use it with.
I left it at that and moved along. My advice, just rent the damn SIM and dont show them what phone you plan to use it with.
#18
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 37
I got to NRT and was on my way to having a SIM card, then she saw my BlackBerry Bold and pointed to some crudle printed and taped over note about "No smartphone, no iPhone"
I left it at that and moved along. My advice, just rent the damn SIM and dont show them what phone you plan to use it with.
I left it at that and moved along. My advice, just rent the damn SIM and dont show them what phone you plan to use it with.
#19
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Join Date: May 2009
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yes it was softbank at terminal 1. my advice, do not take out your phone, just try to complete the transaction and be on your way. if you turn off data services via the mobile network and just use wifi or no data at all your smartphone is now a dumbphone and softbank should be none the wiser.
#20
Join Date: Nov 2008
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yes it was softbank at terminal 1. my advice, do not take out your phone, just try to complete the transaction and be on your way. if you turn off data services via the mobile network and just use wifi or no data at all your smartphone is now a dumbphone and softbank should be none the wiser.
#21

Join Date: Feb 2005
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Their standard procedure is to install the SIM and test the phone when you pick up the SIM. I'm not sure if they will complete the transaction without the phone.
On previous visits I've used a Nokia 6630 and a T-Mobile G1. They are both considered smartphones, so either the policy is new or they didn't recognize my phones as smartphones.
On previous visits I've used a Nokia 6630 and a T-Mobile G1. They are both considered smartphones, so either the policy is new or they didn't recognize my phones as smartphones.
#22




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Thanks!
#23


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I think the issue you're talking about is separate from that though: apparently some vendor doesn't have the ability to block data usage and doesn't want to rent to people with phones that will use a lot of data.
#24




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Correct. I am looking for updated info on if I can rent the SIM without showing my BBerry at the time of rental.
#25

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SoftBank still has the policy in place. They are concerned that smartphones may be syncing data without the owner's knowledge, and running up huge data charges. SoftBank likely ends up with either having to write off the charges, or having an unhappy customer. Even if you know how to disable data communication/syncing, they will probably say, "Rules are rules" and not allow you to rent the SIM.
The last time I rented a SIM I used a low-end unlocked 3G phone, specifically a Sony-Ericsson TM506. They had no problem with this phone. Once you have the SIM, you can put it in any unlocked phone, but you will be responsible for making sure that you disable data sync on your smartphone. Be aware that data charges are very high.
I know of one case of purchasing a SoftBank prepaid phone and SIM (USIM) with only a passport with a 90-day visitor landing permission stamp. This particular store has been mentioned in some forums as consistently allowing purchase by non-residents.
Having a prepaid phone or renting a phone or SIM is useful for me for receiving calls. In fact, when you refill minutes into a prepaid account, the minutes are only good for 60 days. You can extend the balance by adding another prepaid recharge before the end of 60 days. However, if you let the minutes expire without another refill, you won't be able to make any calls (except emergency calls). The nice part about SoftBank prepaid is that you can continue to receive calls for another 360 days without refilling. After that the account is terminated and you lose the phone number. My plan is to just refill the account once every 13 months or so for 3,000, and this will give me a relatively permanent Japanese mobile number on which I can always receive calls while in Japan, and even make a few calls while the minutes are valid.
Making calls from the prepaid or rental is expensive. If I have to make an international call, I use Skype or MagicJack. If I have to make a domestic call, I wait until I have access to a household landline, Skype if I'm at a hotel, or for short calls use a payphone with an NTT prepaid card.
The last time I rented a SIM I used a low-end unlocked 3G phone, specifically a Sony-Ericsson TM506. They had no problem with this phone. Once you have the SIM, you can put it in any unlocked phone, but you will be responsible for making sure that you disable data sync on your smartphone. Be aware that data charges are very high.
I know of one case of purchasing a SoftBank prepaid phone and SIM (USIM) with only a passport with a 90-day visitor landing permission stamp. This particular store has been mentioned in some forums as consistently allowing purchase by non-residents.
Having a prepaid phone or renting a phone or SIM is useful for me for receiving calls. In fact, when you refill minutes into a prepaid account, the minutes are only good for 60 days. You can extend the balance by adding another prepaid recharge before the end of 60 days. However, if you let the minutes expire without another refill, you won't be able to make any calls (except emergency calls). The nice part about SoftBank prepaid is that you can continue to receive calls for another 360 days without refilling. After that the account is terminated and you lose the phone number. My plan is to just refill the account once every 13 months or so for 3,000, and this will give me a relatively permanent Japanese mobile number on which I can always receive calls while in Japan, and even make a few calls while the minutes are valid.
Making calls from the prepaid or rental is expensive. If I have to make an international call, I use Skype or MagicJack. If I have to make a domestic call, I wait until I have access to a household landline, Skype if I'm at a hotel, or for short calls use a payphone with an NTT prepaid card.
#26

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Making calls from the prepaid or rental is expensive. If I have to make an international call, I use Skype or MagicJack. If I have to make a domestic call, I wait until I have access to a household landline, Skype if I'm at a hotel, or for short calls use a payphone with an NTT prepaid card.
You can make international calls at the rate of local 03 calls.
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#27




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SoftBank SIM rental information can be found here: http://www.softbank-rental.jp/en/phones/sim3g.php.
The charge is 105/day. Outbound local calls are 105/minute. Incoming calls are free.
SoftBank rental counters are in the arrival halls of Terminal 1 and Terminal 2.
The charge is 105/day. Outbound local calls are 105/minute. Incoming calls are free.
SoftBank rental counters are in the arrival halls of Terminal 1 and Terminal 2.
#28



Join Date: May 2009
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I just rented two SIMs from SoftBank last week, for a G1 and iphone. I kept the iphone hidden because I knew that wouldn't fly, and just lied my face off and said the G1 had no smartphone capabilities.
They were not happy with the fact that I could not produce the second phone because not only do they check to make sure the SIM is working, they make you both send and receive a call to their phone to really make sure. I forget exactly what their data charges are (I think it was 0.32 a packet) but it was exorbitant.
In general I have found they are not willing to rent to you if you have an iphone, and they are also not willing to rent to you if you cannot produce the phone.
Last time I used Telecom Square because they don't have data capabilities but this time they said they no longer rent SIMs.
They were not happy with the fact that I could not produce the second phone because not only do they check to make sure the SIM is working, they make you both send and receive a call to their phone to really make sure. I forget exactly what their data charges are (I think it was 0.32 a packet) but it was exorbitant.
In general I have found they are not willing to rent to you if you have an iphone, and they are also not willing to rent to you if you cannot produce the phone.
Last time I used Telecom Square because they don't have data capabilities but this time they said they no longer rent SIMs.
#29
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If you're staying at some luxury hotels, there is an alternative. At the Peninsula, your room phone will work as a mobile throughout the city. At the Park Hyatt, although it's not publicized, if you ask, they will loan you a phone.
In both cases, I believe there is no rental fee and you only pay for outbound calls at their rate plus 20%, which works out to about Y80 a minute. Beats the heck out of renting a SIM card.
Another way of course is to get a Japanese friend to buy a prepaid SIM for you. You can recharge it anywhere without any id requirement.
The regulation prohibiting visitors from buying prepaid SIMs is as idiotic in origin as the above posters say.
In both cases, I believe there is no rental fee and you only pay for outbound calls at their rate plus 20%, which works out to about Y80 a minute. Beats the heck out of renting a SIM card.
Another way of course is to get a Japanese friend to buy a prepaid SIM for you. You can recharge it anywhere without any id requirement.
The regulation prohibiting visitors from buying prepaid SIMs is as idiotic in origin as the above posters say.
#30

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A personal experience: I bought a HK Discounted SIM at 50 HKD with 150 HKD stored value. The roaming is at HKD 9 which the effective rate is HKD 3 per minute.
May be working for others if you can find some cheap Prepaid sim deal
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
If you're staying at some luxury hotels, there is an alternative. At the Peninsula, your room phone will work as a mobile throughout the city. At the Park Hyatt, although it's not publicized, if you ask, they will loan you a phone.
In both cases, I believe there is no rental fee and you only pay for outbound calls at their rate plus 20%, which works out to about Y80 a minute. Beats the heck out of renting a SIM card.
Another way of course is to get a Japanese friend to buy a prepaid SIM for you. You can recharge it anywhere without any id requirement.
The regulation prohibiting visitors from buying prepaid SIMs is as idiotic in origin as the above posters say.
In both cases, I believe there is no rental fee and you only pay for outbound calls at their rate plus 20%, which works out to about Y80 a minute. Beats the heck out of renting a SIM card.
Another way of course is to get a Japanese friend to buy a prepaid SIM for you. You can recharge it anywhere without any id requirement.
The regulation prohibiting visitors from buying prepaid SIMs is as idiotic in origin as the above posters say.
May be working for others if you can find some cheap Prepaid sim deal

