Bullet Train Experience
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Bullet Train Experience
My son and I will be in Tokyo end of July and will be staying in JW Marriott for one and half day.
Both of us want to experience the bullet train.
Is it possible to ride the bullet train from Tokyo to anywhere for 2-3 hours and come back?
This will be our first time in Tokyo.
Thanks
EDIT:
Pointed out by Pickles.
It is Westin Tokyo. Not JW Marriott. Sorry about that.
Both of us want to experience the bullet train.
Is it possible to ride the bullet train from Tokyo to anywhere for 2-3 hours and come back?
This will be our first time in Tokyo.
Thanks
EDIT:
Pointed out by Pickles.
It is Westin Tokyo. Not JW Marriott. Sorry about that.
Last edited by h_united; Jul 19, 2006 at 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by h_united
My son and I will be in Tokyo end of July and will be staying in JW Marriott for one and half day.
Both of us want to experience the bullet train.
Is it possible to ride the bullet train from Tokyo to anywhere for 2-3 hours and come back?
This will be our first time in Tokyo.
Thanks
Both of us want to experience the bullet train.
Is it possible to ride the bullet train from Tokyo to anywhere for 2-3 hours and come back?
This will be our first time in Tokyo.
Thanks
PS There is no JW Marriott in Tokyo.
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On my first trip to Japan as a grad student, we had a free day (mostly) to ourselves. A few of us wanted to ride the bullet train (Shinkansen).
We went to the station, went to the English-speaking window, and explained that "we didn't particularly care where we went, but that we wanted to go far enough for the train to get up to full speed" and get back in time for our evening obligations.
The ticket agents were very helpful, and ticketed us round trip from Nagoya to Toyohachi, also telling us she believed there was a local festival going on there. We went. We explored a bit. Had a great time. Easy to do.
You might have to venture a bit further out of Tokyo to really get up to speed. But, doable in one day.
We went to the station, went to the English-speaking window, and explained that "we didn't particularly care where we went, but that we wanted to go far enough for the train to get up to full speed" and get back in time for our evening obligations.
The ticket agents were very helpful, and ticketed us round trip from Nagoya to Toyohachi, also telling us she believed there was a local festival going on there. We went. We explored a bit. Had a great time. Easy to do.
You might have to venture a bit further out of Tokyo to really get up to speed. But, doable in one day.
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2-3 hours on the shinkansen from Tokyo would be best done as a round trip Tokyo - Nagoya on the Nozomi, about 1hr45 minutes each way. The Nozomi is the fastest shinkansen and after making one stop a few minutes out of Tokyo, typically doesn't stop next until Nagoya.
This ride will cost you each Y10,780 one way (i.e. double that for a round trip).
If you are content riding a Hikari, the next fastest shinkansen, which basically runs about as fast as the Nozomi on this sector, you could probably do a trip from Tokyo - Shizuoka and back, about 1 hr 10 minutes each way, for Y6180 each person each way. This could be done with either a 3 or 63 minute layover time in Shizuoka. Three minutes IS theoretically possible, but maybe best you go get a cup of coffee and go for the longer layover!
This ride will cost you each Y10,780 one way (i.e. double that for a round trip).
If you are content riding a Hikari, the next fastest shinkansen, which basically runs about as fast as the Nozomi on this sector, you could probably do a trip from Tokyo - Shizuoka and back, about 1 hr 10 minutes each way, for Y6180 each person each way. This could be done with either a 3 or 63 minute layover time in Shizuoka. Three minutes IS theoretically possible, but maybe best you go get a cup of coffee and go for the longer layover!
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QUOTE=Pickles]...
PS There is no JW Marriott in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]
My Bad. I edited my original post to correct my hotel in Tokyo. I have already ticketed and KIX is not an option.
Thanks. Both options looks good. Where can I get a timetable for the Hikari? Also I am assuming I can just buy the tickets from the station.
PS There is no JW Marriott in Tokyo.[/QUOTE]
My Bad. I edited my original post to correct my hotel in Tokyo. I have already ticketed and KIX is not an option.
Originally Posted by RichardInSF
2-3 hours on the shinkansen from Tokyo would be best done as a round trip Tokyo - Nagoya on the Nozomi, about 1hr45 minutes each way. The Nozomi is the fastest shinkansen and after making one stop a few minutes out of Tokyo, typically doesn't stop next until Nagoya.
This ride will cost you each Y10,780 one way (i.e. double that for a round trip).
If you are content riding a Hikari, the next fastest shinkansen, which basically runs about as fast as the Nozomi on this sector, you could probably do a trip from Tokyo - Shizuoka and back, about 1 hr 10 minutes each way, for Y6180 each person each way. This could be done with either a 3 or 63 minute layover time in Shizuoka. Three minutes IS theoretically possible, but maybe best you go get a cup of coffee and go for the longer layover!
This ride will cost you each Y10,780 one way (i.e. double that for a round trip).
If you are content riding a Hikari, the next fastest shinkansen, which basically runs about as fast as the Nozomi on this sector, you could probably do a trip from Tokyo - Shizuoka and back, about 1 hr 10 minutes each way, for Y6180 each person each way. This could be done with either a 3 or 63 minute layover time in Shizuoka. Three minutes IS theoretically possible, but maybe best you go get a cup of coffee and go for the longer layover!
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Originally Posted by RichardInSF
If you are content riding a Hikari, the next fastest shinkansen, which basically runs about as fast as the Nozomi on this sector, you could probably do a trip from Tokyo - Shizuoka and back, about 1 hr 10 minutes each way, for Y6180 each person each way. This could be done with either a 3 or 63 minute layover time in Shizuoka. Three minutes IS theoretically possible, but maybe best you go get a cup of coffee and go for the longer layover!
Also, you should take one of the hikaris that goes non-stop from Tokyo/Shinagawa to Shizuoka. That'll give you a good feel for the speed of the thing.
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Well, it would depends on what you want to do. Just riding the Shinkansen for the purpose of riding the Shinkansen I think is a somewhat waste of money. I personally would combine it with a trip somewhere as part of my travel plans, or at least try to incorporate it.
You say you are in Tokyo for 1 1/2 days will you be traveling anywhere else in Japan after Tokyo, or is this a short layover?
I would if you don't want to spend a fortune is to take the Shinkansen from Tokyo Station to Odawara Station (about 35 minute ride). Get out at Odawara visit Odarawa Castle. Or if you have a full day from Odawara Station you can explore Hakone.
Most trains that stop at Odawara Station are "Kodama Shinkansen" services, these are the "slowest" of the Tokaido Shinkansen services, however they are much faster than regular trains taking 35minutes vs. 1.5-2hrs from Central Tokyo by regular trains, and they are Series 300 Shinkansen trains.
You say you are in Tokyo for 1 1/2 days will you be traveling anywhere else in Japan after Tokyo, or is this a short layover?
I would if you don't want to spend a fortune is to take the Shinkansen from Tokyo Station to Odawara Station (about 35 minute ride). Get out at Odawara visit Odarawa Castle. Or if you have a full day from Odawara Station you can explore Hakone.
Most trains that stop at Odawara Station are "Kodama Shinkansen" services, these are the "slowest" of the Tokaido Shinkansen services, however they are much faster than regular trains taking 35minutes vs. 1.5-2hrs from Central Tokyo by regular trains, and they are Series 300 Shinkansen trains.
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Originally Posted by h_united
QUOTE=Pickles]...
PS There is no JW Marriott in Tokyo.
PS There is no JW Marriott in Tokyo.
That's the beauty of the Shinkansen. You don't really need a timetable. On my last trip, I took a picture of the English phase of the flashing departure sign over the Shinkansen turnstile at Nagoya. The trains to Tokyo were leaving every three to eight minutes.
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This is the timetable specific for the Tokaido Shinkansen:
http://jr-central.co.jp/eng.nsf/english/timetable
www.hyperdia.com will also give you timetables, but the search results might have other trains (non Shinkansen) listed as well.
http://jr-central.co.jp/eng.nsf/english/timetable
www.hyperdia.com will also give you timetables, but the search results might have other trains (non Shinkansen) listed as well.
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It's been a few years since I was in Japan, so your mileage may vary.
As others mentioned, there are several levels of bullet trains - make certain to pick the level you'd like to experience. There are three levels of shinkansen (Nozomi, Hikari, Kodama).
You can use a Japan Rail pass on the Hikari, but not the Nozomi. Purchasing a JR pass in the US cost less than purchasing the same pass when in Japan.
There are a lot of smokers in Japan. I recommend that you reserve seats in a non-smoking car, at least a few days in advance.
If you do the Tokyo to Nagoya route, you will pass Fuji-san. From Tokyo to Nagoya, I remember Fuji in the distance on the right side of the train.
On the shinkansen, snack/sake/beer vendors routinely rolled carts through the aisles. There are snack bars/restaurants in most stations. Nagoya's is part of an underground mall type area.
There's not much room for luggage.
In my travels in Japan I found the english speaking Japan Rail phone number to be invaluable. I've forgotten it, but you may consider calling the NY office of Japan Rail and asking them for the number that you can dial in Japan for assistance in English. The JR website is http://japanrail.com and the NY number is listed there.
I would call them from Nagoya and tell them where I was, where I wanted to be, and they told me exact transfer times. In Tokyo, you'll be fine - many of the signs are in English, In Nagoya many of the signs are in kanji, hiragana and katakana.
As others mentioned, there are several levels of bullet trains - make certain to pick the level you'd like to experience. There are three levels of shinkansen (Nozomi, Hikari, Kodama).
You can use a Japan Rail pass on the Hikari, but not the Nozomi. Purchasing a JR pass in the US cost less than purchasing the same pass when in Japan.
There are a lot of smokers in Japan. I recommend that you reserve seats in a non-smoking car, at least a few days in advance.
If you do the Tokyo to Nagoya route, you will pass Fuji-san. From Tokyo to Nagoya, I remember Fuji in the distance on the right side of the train.
On the shinkansen, snack/sake/beer vendors routinely rolled carts through the aisles. There are snack bars/restaurants in most stations. Nagoya's is part of an underground mall type area.
There's not much room for luggage.
In my travels in Japan I found the english speaking Japan Rail phone number to be invaluable. I've forgotten it, but you may consider calling the NY office of Japan Rail and asking them for the number that you can dial in Japan for assistance in English. The JR website is http://japanrail.com and the NY number is listed there.
I would call them from Nagoya and tell them where I was, where I wanted to be, and they told me exact transfer times. In Tokyo, you'll be fine - many of the signs are in English, In Nagoya many of the signs are in kanji, hiragana and katakana.
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As you whiz through Japan, keep an eye out for rice paddies (any place that's flat there's water and a rice paddy). In the hills, those shrubs are tea plants.
Take your son to a grocery store in the US. Save the itemized receipt, and then go to a grocery store in Japan. It's quite an eye opening experience.
Take your son to a grocery store in the US. Save the itemized receipt, and then go to a grocery store in Japan. It's quite an eye opening experience.
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I agree with the poster above. The rice paddies are INCREDIBLE and a sight to behold when flying past them at 200km/h! Same goes for when you get near a motorway near the shinkansen tracks -- you literally pass them like it was no effort to pass at all.
And I like the itemized reciept idea. Really opens one's eyes when they see how much things cost in Japan. I keep several itemized reciepts from restaurants also likewise to demonstrate the costs between countryside dining and cityside dining.
Sanosuke!
And I like the itemized reciept idea. Really opens one's eyes when they see how much things cost in Japan. I keep several itemized reciepts from restaurants also likewise to demonstrate the costs between countryside dining and cityside dining.

Sanosuke!
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You can use a Japan Rail pass on the Hikari, but not the Nozomi. Purchasing a JR pass in the US cost less than purchasing the same pass when in Japan.
You can work around this buy ordering from an overseas office and having it mailed to you in Japan (but is time consuming because you have to wait for mail)
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Originally Posted by blueskeyes
If you do the Tokyo to Nagoya route, you will pass Fuji-san. From Tokyo to Nagoya, I remember Fuji in the distance on the right side of the train.

