Not allowed to do turnaround transit in NRT?
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The MEX-NRT bound flight gets in first thing in the morning around 630AM. Assuming the OP is allowed to board the flight (big if), that would be almost 11 hours of layover until the UA flight bound for EWR.
Interesting proposal for the baggage area meet. Note, however, international inbounds would be in the secured area of the airport and given the reduced international traffic and all of the ever changing rules, this is also a great risk. Hanging around by the baggage area for too long, and you are likely to get a talking to.
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It is unlikely that NH will treat the transfer between two tickets at NRT as a transit. This leaves OP "stranded" at MEX and purchasing a new ticket back to the US.
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But what may make this easier if OP books MEX-NRT-ICN/ULN/IST (somewhere you could go with just a negative test) on one ticket and then NRT-EWR on the other. That is still a valid transit in NRT (unlike USA - Japan - USA) and so what if "plans change"?
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I'm not so sure NH would veto this.
But what may make this easier if OP books MEX-NRT-ICN/ULN/IST (somewhere you could go with just a negative test) on one ticket and then NRT-EWR on the other. That is still a valid transit in NRT (unlike USA - Japan - USA) and so what if "plans change"?
But what may make this easier if OP books MEX-NRT-ICN/ULN/IST (somewhere you could go with just a negative test) on one ticket and then NRT-EWR on the other. That is still a valid transit in NRT (unlike USA - Japan - USA) and so what if "plans change"?
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I think that MEX-NRT-EWR is a very odd routing. I think that there is a risk that the airline will think that NRT is the intended destination and that the passenger is trying to abuse the system by showing up at NRT passport control and no-showing from the NRT-EWR leg. The airline might therefore deny boarding at MEX.
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It is a very odd routing. But, the problem is that separate tickets MEX-NRT and NRT-EWR with a claim of "transit" is even odder.
Bottom line is that "odd" isn't the standard, it is whether OP's ground time in Japan qualifies as a "transit." If it does not, he will be denied boarding at MEX however he is ticketed.
Bottom line is that "odd" isn't the standard, it is whether OP's ground time in Japan qualifies as a "transit." If it does not, he will be denied boarding at MEX however he is ticketed.
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It is a very odd routing. But, the problem is that separate tickets MEX-NRT and NRT-EWR with a claim of "transit" is even odder.
Bottom line is that "odd" isn't the standard, it is whether OP's ground time in Japan qualifies as a "transit." If it does not, he will be denied boarding at MEX however he is ticketed.
Bottom line is that "odd" isn't the standard, it is whether OP's ground time in Japan qualifies as a "transit." If it does not, he will be denied boarding at MEX however he is ticketed.
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I think that MEX-NRT-EWR is a very odd routing. I think that there is a risk that the airline will think that NRT is the intended destination and that the passenger is trying to abuse the system by showing up at NRT passport control and no-showing from the NRT-EWR leg. The airline might therefore deny boarding at MEX.
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If you are already married, you may be able to obtain dispensation from the Philippines government to travel via their consulate. In normal times, if you were to travel with your Philippines citizen spouse and bring proof of marriage, you could obtain a different, long-stay visa than the standard tourist visa. May be worth looking into if you have time.
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If OP is was intending to fly this month, I don't think they would grant him a dispensation. There's currently an entry restriction for foreign nationals from a group of 30~ countries, which includes the US. Right now, its in effect until the end of Jan and does not allow any exemptions.
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I am planning a similar separate ticket TYO "connection" in March with a PNR test (same day results) the day before departure from LAX.
• Ticket 1: LAX-MEX on AA
• Ticket 2: MEX-CDG-HND on AF, with a 5 hour "transit" to...
• Ticket 3: HND-LAX on NH
• Ticket 1: LAX-MEX on AA
• Ticket 2: MEX-CDG-HND on AF, with a 5 hour "transit" to...
• Ticket 3: HND-LAX on NH
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I really want to fly too. Fortunately, I also realize we are in the midst of a pandemic so despite how much I’d love to go somewhere I will only allow myself to fly for life or death emergencies. Partly because I’m trying to be a good global citizen and partly because I don’t want to deal with all the red tape and potential pitfalls of denied boarding or getting stuck somewhere. You will be denied boarding and even if you were allowed to board you run the risk of getting into trouble in Japan for trying to “game” the system. They will be less understanding of your plight than the audience here.
I know it’s not a popular opinion on FT but I’d advise you to buy some roses and meet your wife at the exit to customs in EWR.
I know it’s not a popular opinion on FT but I’d advise you to buy some roses and meet your wife at the exit to customs in EWR.
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It is a very odd routing. But, the problem is that separate tickets MEX-NRT and NRT-EWR with a claim of "transit" is even odder.
Bottom line is that "odd" isn't the standard, it is whether OP's ground time in Japan qualifies as a "transit." If it does not, he will be denied boarding at MEX however he is ticketed.
Bottom line is that "odd" isn't the standard, it is whether OP's ground time in Japan qualifies as a "transit." If it does not, he will be denied boarding at MEX however he is ticketed.
Sure, be prepared for whatever could go wrong, but you can't win if you don't play!
As somebody that transits often on "odd" itineraries with multiple tickets and never has had any issue this just doesn't phase me. Yup, we are in a pandemic which means the airport staff likely has more free time to work with you. Worst case? Other than possibly catching Covid, you turn around at MEX, you got some flying under your belt and your wife is happy and feels cared for in that you did try.
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I am not understanding all of the negativity here. Who cares if it is "odd" if it is legal? MEX-NRT-USA is a legal transit no matter how odd. Nor is a transit required to be on a single PNR, why would a pandemic alter such a requirement? If you can show a ticket that transits you through NRT then it should be legal.
Sure, be prepared for whatever could go wrong, but you can't win if you don't play!
As somebody that transits often on "odd" itineraries with multiple tickets and never has had any issue this just doesn't phase me. Yup, we are in a pandemic which means the airport staff likely has more free time to work with you. Worst case? Other than possibly catching Covid, you turn around at MEX, you got some flying under your belt and your wife is happy and feels cared for in that you did try.
Sure, be prepared for whatever could go wrong, but you can't win if you don't play!
As somebody that transits often on "odd" itineraries with multiple tickets and never has had any issue this just doesn't phase me. Yup, we are in a pandemic which means the airport staff likely has more free time to work with you. Worst case? Other than possibly catching Covid, you turn around at MEX, you got some flying under your belt and your wife is happy and feels cared for in that you did try.
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Too bad, I missed you by one day. Sitting at the ANA Suite Lounge at NRT right now... (Thursday afternoon in Japan)
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