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Paella747 Jun 4, 2022 3:19 am

I saw some posts somewhere awhile back regarding NH and JL flights from GMP to HND. JL had them listed for June, NH starting in July. Now it looks like JL has cancelled the June flights. I have an (Alaska) JL award booking from GMP-HND-LAX at the end of June and still showing as "intact" on Alaska. I'm sure it'll error out soon. :-(


***edited to add: The GMP-HND flight still shows as fine when I manage my booking on the JAL site, yet the June flights seem to have all dropped on Google Flights. Can anybody confirm whether or not JAL GMP-HND flights are happening now that we're in June? Hmmmmm...

ALGU Jun 4, 2022 4:56 am


Originally Posted by sunny75 (Post 34304196)
My flight arriving in Narita on July 5th via Sri Lankan air(T2), connecting to LAX via zip air which is in T1. These are two separate flights. My understanding is you have to go through the immigration then retrieve your check in bags. So, what if I take only carry on? Would that work without entering Japan? Would I be able to go from T2 to T1? Any insight is greatly appreciated.


Originally Posted by seigex (Post 34304270)
Yeah you should be fine with carryon only. No other airlines interline with zip-air aside from other very specific zip-air flights (I've been researching this for a month or so). But for carryon you will just go through normal transit entry, they will verify your passport and your onward flight and dump you in to the international terminal. There will be no need to enter Japan as long as you are only bringing carryon bags. Assuming you can get from T2 to T1, the one piece I don't have experience with, but I'm sure someone else will answer up here to validate.

Unfortunately, ZipAir doesn’t allow airside check-in. So if your first leg is ZipAir, then might be ok. But if ZipAir is your second leg AND you’re departing from Japan, you may have some issues.

I had a similar issue with Scoot in Singapore even though I was hand carry only AND there’s a Scoot transit counter airside, since this transit counter will only airside check in FROM interlined airlines including separate tickets. Thankfully, I was able to go landside and check in at the main counters.

CPH-Flyer Jun 4, 2022 6:09 am


Originally Posted by Paella747 (Post 34306008)
I saw some posts somewhere awhile back regarding NH and JL flights from GMP to HND. JL had them listed for June, NH starting in July. Now it looks like JL has cancelled the June flights. I have an (Alaska) JL award booking from GMP-HND-LAX at the end of June and still showing as "intact" on Alaska. I'm sure it'll error out soon. :-(


***edited to add: The GMP-HND flight still shows as fine when I manage my booking on the JAL site, yet the June flights seem to have all dropped on Google Flights. Can anybody confirm whether or not JAL GMP-HND flights are happening now that we're in June? Hmmmmm...

Until the 14th of June, the flights are cancelled. From the 15th onwards will be announced later.

Paella747 Jun 4, 2022 8:43 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34306226)
Until the 14th of June, the flights are cancelled. From the 15th onwards will be announced later.

Thank you! My flight is on the 27th, so we'll see!

seigex Jun 4, 2022 10:59 am

There's supposed to be an announcement when the foreign minister of Korea flies from GMP to HND around 6/19. https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...r-japan-visit/


In a bid to represent the restart of Japan-South Korea exchanges, Park reportedly plans to come to Japan on a flight from Seoul’s Gimpo International Airport to Tokyo’s Haneda Airport ahead of the expected reopening of the Gimpo-Haneda route in June.

Andrew Kim Jun 4, 2022 1:08 pm

The HND-GMP reopening (originally for "early June") delay was supposedly caused by necessity to hire additional staff and set up arrival screening apparatus, and the new date is supposedly 6/15. But I suspect it will be later. Reasons:

1. JL has massively cut back its tentative June schedule. Yes, 6/1-6/14 outright canceled. Then there were initially 3x flights daily from 6/15 on (still selling as of May), but they first reduced it to Thurs and Sun only (meaning earliest possible is 6/16), and presently down to just one morning flight on those two days (all mid afternoon and evening flights canceled). That's for Japan--> Korea direction; I don't remember the other.

2. A South Korean politician is set to board the ceremonial reopening flight on 6/19, so that might be the first.

anhto90 Jun 5, 2022 10:15 am

I have a round trip ORD-NRT in August. I’m not sure if Japan is open by then so I’m changing my plans. I’m thinking of booking a separate ticket to BKK.
NRT-BKK via Thai Airways on the same day. I may be able to check in for both flights with NH agent in Chicago right?
I’m kind of worried about my inbound. I’ll fly to NRT from BKK via Zipair. Will i be able to check in for my NH NRT-ORD airside?

seigex Jun 5, 2022 10:43 am


Originally Posted by anhto90 (Post 34309127)
I have a round trip ORD-NRT in August. I’m not sure if Japan is open by then so I’m changing my plans. I’m thinking of booking a separate ticket to BKK.
NRT-BKK via Thai Airways on the same day. I may be able to check in for both flights with NH agent in Chicago right?
I’m kind of worried about my inbound. I’ll fly to NRT from BKK via Zipair. Will i be able to check in for my NH NRT-ORD airside?

ORD-NRT-BKK should be fine, both are Star Alliance, so NH should be able to book you through. I've booked through UA/NH no problem. The way back could be problematic if you have checked bags. You can't check bags through Zipair to NH and Zipair only interlines with itself, and only on very specific flights listed on their website (SIN-NRT-LAX for example).

That said, assuming Japan doesn't open by August, if you are carryon only, you should be able to check in for your NH flight at the transfer desk at NRT (keep in mind no overnight layovers at NRT), or you could attempt to check in at the NH desk at BKK (I've done this in the US, not sure if it'll work at BKK) if they are open when you're there and just get that piece out of the way early and get your boarding pass.

Someone did raise a question in this thread a few weeks back about whether Zipair arrivals in NRT will allow you to proceed to the transfer area, but from my memory, all arrival flights end up being ushered by the transfer counters, regardless of airline, before immigration.

CPH-Flyer Jun 5, 2022 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by seigex (Post 34309208)
ORD-NRT-BKK should be fine, both are Star Alliance, so NH should be able to book you through. I've booked through UA/NH no problem. The way back could be problematic if you have checked bags. You can't check bags through Zipair to NH and Zipair only interlines with itself, and only on very specific flights listed on their website (SIN-NRT-LAX for example).

That said, assuming Japan doesn't open by August, if you are carryon only, you should be able to check in for your NH flight at the transfer desk at NRT (keep in mind no overnight layovers at NRT), or you could attempt to check in at the NH desk at BKK (I've done this in the US, not sure if it'll work at BKK) if they are open when you're there and just get that piece out of the way early and get your boarding pass.

Someone did raise a question in this thread a few weeks back about whether Zipair arrivals in NRT will allow you to proceed to the transfer area, but from my memory, all arrival flights end up being ushered by the transfer counters, regardless of airline, before immigration.

It is a point on the Zipair website that it is not possible, but as long as they are in T1 I don't see how they will manage that. Even busses from remote stands drops so off so passengers could go to the transfer security. If they are planning to move to T3, it will become more of a point, as I don't think T3 has an airside connection, but for their few allowed connections, that would be an issue.
However, there may be the complication that they will refuse boarding on the context of not allowing connections, and the passenger not being able to enter Japan?

eltoddo22 Jun 7, 2022 2:12 pm

I have a friend flying LAX-NRT on United and then NRT-BKK on Japan Airlines. Arrival and departure in Narita are on same day with 3.5 hour layover. I am trying to figure out if they will have any problems connecting.

I wanted to confirm following:
  • Transiting from T1 to T2 airside sounds possible airside by bus without going through immigration? Sounds like yes from above?
  • Will there be a problem with check bags? Sounds like this would require going through immigration unless there is way to check bags through United to JAL. So sounds like they need to just carry-on?
  • Will they be able to check-in to JAL flight airside or online? This question I'm totally not sure on as it seems like most check-in counters are landside.

CPH-Flyer Jun 7, 2022 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by eltoddo22 (Post 34315719)
I have a friend flying LAX-NRT on United and then NRT-BKK on Japan Airlines. Arrival and departure in Narita are on same day with 3.5 hour layover. I am trying to figure out if they will have any problems connecting.

I wanted to confirm following:
  • Transiting from T1 to T2 airside sounds possible airside by bus without going through immigration? Sounds like yes from above?
  • Will there be a problem with check bags? Sounds like this would require going through immigration unless there is way to check bags through United to JAL. So sounds like they need to just carry-on?
  • Will they be able to check-in to JAL flight airside or online? This question I'm totally not sure on as it seems like most check-in counters are landside.

There is an airside transit bus between terminals.

United does not check luggage through to non Star Alliance carriers on separate tickets. So carry on only.

Yes, they can get a boarding pass airside for JAL. There are transit counters that can manage it.

TravelLawyer Jun 7, 2022 9:18 pm

Question regarding SQ - if we fly Sin-Nrt-USA with sin-nrt on Sq (separate ticket) and the. Nrt-USA on JAL (separate ticket) will Sq interline all the way through to USA? We needed to change a flight and the JAL sin-nrt flight doesn’t align correctly so we have to fly a different carrier, but we have checked luggage. We are skipping the much cheaper Zip in hopes that sq can accommodate.

CPH-Flyer Jun 7, 2022 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by TravelLawyer (Post 34316646)
Question regarding SQ - if we fly Sin-Nrt-USA with sin-nrt on Sq (separate ticket) and the. Nrt-USA on JAL (separate ticket) will Sq interline all the way through to USA? We needed to change a flight and the JAL sin-nrt flight doesn’t align correctly so we have to fly a different carrier, but we have checked luggage. We are skipping the much cheaper Zip in hopes that sq can accommodate.

That is really a question for the SQ forum, what the rules are with SQ for checking luggage through on separate tickets.

But why not take SQ12, the same flight goes SIN NRT NRT LAX?

JL712 should align fine with JL62. 16:20 arrival, 17:20 departure. Of course on separate tickets, an hour is a bit risky. But JAL should be able to sell one ticket all the way.

TravelLawyer Jun 8, 2022 8:33 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34316662)
That is really a question for the SQ forum, what the rules are with SQ for checking luggage through on separate tickets.

But why not take SQ12, the same flight goes SIN NRT NRT LAX?

JL712 should align fine with JL62. 16:20 arrival, 17:20 departure. Of course on separate tickets, an hour is a bit risky. But JAL should be able to sell one ticket all the way.

Thanks. We have 1st tickets on JAL that we didn’t want to give up, so that’s why we are trying to jump through hoops to save them. Will try looking more on the SQ forum. The search function on FT is not that great. 😔

TravelLawyer Jun 8, 2022 8:36 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34316662)
That is really a question for the SQ forum, what the rules are with SQ for checking luggage through on separate tickets.

But why not take SQ12, the same flight goes SIN NRT NRT LAX?

JL712 should align fine with JL62. 16:20 arrival, 17:20 departure. Of course on separate tickets, an hour is a bit risky. But JAL should be able to sell one ticket all the way.

Thanks. We have 1st tickets on JAL that we didn’t want to give up, so that’s why we are trying to jump through hoops to save them. Will try looking more on the SQ forum. The search function on FT is not that great. 😔


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