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LowLevelElite May 15, 2022 4:31 pm

HND airside overnight options
 
Hi! I have an overnight layover at HND due to flight timings JAL DFW-BKK in Biz... as I understand I must remain airside during the overnight layover due to japan entry restrictions, wished to kindly ask what kind of options remain at HND for sleeping during the overnight layover... as I was in J, was the Sakura lounge open throughout the night and did it have sleeping or resting rooms? furthermore were there any capsule hotels or any other sleeping arrangements available airside? where can I find out more info?

CPH-Flyer May 15, 2022 4:50 pm


Originally Posted by LowLevelElite (Post 34252419)
Hi! I have an overnight layover at HND due to flight timings JAL DFW-BKK in Biz... as I understand I must remain airside during the overnight layover due to japan entry restrictions, wished to kindly ask what kind of options remain at HND for sleeping during the overnight layover... as I was in J, was the Sakura lounge open throughout the night and did it have sleeping or resting rooms? furthermore were there any capsule hotels or any other sleeping arrangements available airside? where can I find out more info?

The lounge closes overnight, and so far the airside hotel has been closed.

Based on reports, the downstairs area by the bus gates is the most quiet during the night. The lounge most nights closes around 1am and opens again around 6am, so the lounge free time is not super long.

When is you flight? As traffic starts to build, and Japan is expected to start allowing tour groups in from June and increase the arrival cap to 20K a day, maybe the airside Hotel will make a reappearance before too long.

cvkhuong May 15, 2022 6:35 pm

Hello, I am in the same boat as the previous posts. I have a flight to HND landing in the international terminal 3 in late June. I am looking to book the same day flight out of HND terminal 3 to Seoul on JAL( I am currently on ANA/United from Chicago to HND). Is this doable?

seigex May 15, 2022 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by cvkhuong (Post 34252673)
Hello, I am in the same boat as the previous posts. I have a flight to HND landing in the international terminal 3 in late June. I am looking to book the same day flight out of HND terminal 3 to Seoul on JAL( I am currently on ANA/United from Chicago to HND). Is this doable?

If you are carry-on, no problem, but as it sits right now if you have checked luggage, you can't enter Japan to retrieve it, so it all depends on if ANA will check your luggage through on JAL, which is probably unlikely, or if Japan loosens controls and allows you to enter and collect luggage by late June. For checking bags through, you will have to ask ANA, I think the best way to know is to make a trip to ORD while the ANA gate is open and ask if that's something they are able to do, I wouldn't trust the phone agents for something like this.

CPH-Flyer May 15, 2022 7:04 pm


Originally Posted by cvkhuong (Post 34252673)
Hello, I am in the same boat as the previous posts. I have a flight to HND landing in the international terminal 3 in late June. I am looking to book the same day flight out of HND terminal 3 to Seoul on JAL( I am currently on ANA/United from Chicago to HND). Is this doable?

​​​​​​There are currently no flights from Haneda to Seoul. You need to fly via Narita for that.

JAL has yet to announce the Seoul schedule for June. With the supposedly easing of borders they may actually start flying to Seoul again. But currently neither JAL nor ANA flies to Seoul.

seigex May 15, 2022 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 34252749)
​​​​​​There are currently no flights from Haneda to Seoul. You need to fly via Narita for that.

JAL has yet to announce the Seoul schedule for June. With the supposedly easing of borders they may actually start flying to Seoul again. But currently neither JAL nor ANA flies to Seoul.

Thanks, I should have mentioned that. A potential positive is that June HND-GMP JAL flights haven't been canceled yet as far as I know, whereas the May ones were canceled more than a month out. SK's gov't does still list May as being when international travel to GMP is supposed to start (phase 1): Phased resumption of international flights - Seoul Metropolitan Government

Here's for hoping.

CPH-Flyer May 15, 2022 11:06 pm


Originally Posted by seigex (Post 34252895)
Thanks, I should have mentioned that. A potential positive is that June HND-GMP JAL flights haven't been canceled yet as far as I know, whereas the May ones were canceled more than a month out. SK's gov't does still list May as being when international travel to GMP is supposed to start (phase 1): Phased resumption of international flights - Seoul Metropolitan Government

Here's for hoping.

June went on 'to be confirmed' at the same time as May was cancelled. The fun stuff is that Korea needs to open for international flights to Gimpo, and Japan needs to open for flights from Korea outside of Narita and Kansai.

Considering how much traffic there used to be, it is rather odd it has not caused bigger protests yet from businesses on both sides.

james950417 May 16, 2022 2:32 am

Does anyone know if it's possible to make a same day layover in KIX with 2 separate tickets? I'm looking at LAX - KIX (JL) + KIX - SIN - BKK (SQ). I've read a lot of people talking about transiting in NRT with 2 separate tickets but don't think I've found any data points on KIX :/

Any suggestion would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!

JessicaTam May 16, 2022 3:19 am


Originally Posted by LowLevelElite (Post 34252419)
Hi! I have an overnight layover at HND due to flight timings JAL DFW-BKK in Biz... as I understand I must remain airside during the overnight layover due to japan entry restrictions, wished to kindly ask what kind of options remain at HND for sleeping during the overnight layover... as I was in J, was the Sakura lounge open throughout the night and did it have sleeping or resting rooms? furthermore were there any capsule hotels or any other sleeping arrangements available airside? where can I find out more info?

I am not sure how up to date this is, but it might help in addition to the above advice:

https://www.sleepinginairports.net/s...da-airport.htm

seigex May 17, 2022 9:12 am

Not sure how I missed this, but if it's correct, it's good news for transiting HND to GMP on oneworld and the first confirmation I've seen aside from the gov't website: Gimpo Airport to resume international flights in June (koreaherald.com)


Gimpo International Airport in Seoul is resuming the long-stalled operation of international flights from June, starting with popular routes between South Korea and Japan.

According to the Transport Ministry on Thursday, several South Korean and Japanese air carriers such as Korean Air, Asiana Airlines, Japan Airlines and All Nippon Airways have filed applications to resume international flights at the airport.

Gimpo Airport in western Seoul, one of the nation’s main gateways along with Incheon International Airport, is favored among travelers here when it comes to short-haul flights to neighboring countries such as Japan, China and Taiwan.

rokobok May 17, 2022 9:52 am


Originally Posted by seigex (Post 34257349)
Not sure how I missed this, but if it's correct, it's good news for transiting HND to GMP on oneworld and the first confirmation I've seen aside from the gov't website: Gimpo Airport to resume international flights in June (koreaherald.com)

best news I've heard in awhile. Hopefully will be from NRT as well...

emcampbe May 18, 2022 6:00 pm

I’m back, wondering if anyone knows what happens if a connecting flight gets canceled at NRT.

We’re flying YVR-NRT-SIN, AC then NH, all on one ticket. Looks like 801 (NRT-SIN) was canceled yesterday - it doesn’t show a reason, and I’m not sure how far in advance. But assuming one is already enroute to NRT, what happens?

i assume they will try to rebook as many connections as possible onto SQ flight, or maybe on connections via NH/TG via BKK, or maybe other reasonable connection options, but also suspect without flexibility to do it beyond same evening (or using HND flights either), it might be hard capacity-wise for an entire canceled flight. Sure I’m worried over nothing, but trying to plan in case some ‘creativity’ is necessary.

CPH-Flyer May 18, 2022 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by emcampbe (Post 34261817)
I’m back, wondering if anyone knows what happens if a connecting flight gets canceled at NRT.

We’re flying YVR-NRT-SIN, AC then NH, all on one ticket. Looks like 801 (NRT-SIN) was canceled yesterday - it doesn’t show a reason, and I’m not sure how far in advance. But assuming one is already enroute to NRT, what happens?

i assume they will try to rebook as many connections as possible onto SQ flight, or maybe on connections via NH/TG via BKK, or maybe other reasonable connection options, but also suspect without flexibility to do it beyond same evening (or using HND flights either), it might be hard capacity-wise for an entire canceled flight. Sure I’m worried over nothing, but trying to plan in case some ‘creativity’ is necessary.

That seems to have been a scheduled suspension, May and June has not had daily service on 801. From July it goes to daily operations.

cdizzle11 May 22, 2022 12:15 am


Originally Posted by seigex (Post 34257349)
Not sure how I missed this, but if it's correct, it's good news for transiting HND to GMP on oneworld and the first confirmation I've seen aside from the gov't website: Gimpo Airport to resume international flights in June (koreaherald.com)

Also found this on JAL website: JAL network changes for East Asia (as of May 11)
I've got a GMP-HND-LAX flight lined up in July so hopefully this will be confirmed soon!

CPH-Flyer May 22, 2022 2:28 am


Originally Posted by cdizzle11 (Post 34269919)
Also found this on JAL website: JAL network changes for East Asia (as of May 11)
I've got a GMP-HND-LAX flight lined up in July so hopefully this will be confirmed soon!

The eased testing requirements from June 1st was just published (not the specific countries in each group) but the requirements for flight from Korea to only go to Narita and Kansai still survived. They kind of need that fixed as well. Though JAL actually has flights HND<>GMP open for booking already in June so they seems to expect an easing of these rules.....


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