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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 12:53 am
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Anyone else obsessed with Kyoto?

Did 2 weeks in Japan in 2016 including Kyoto. Went again this year for cherry blossom. Going to Asia early next year and was planning on just Tokyo and Disney Tokyo for my Japan portion. But I simply cannot get Kyoto out of my head, there are so many things I like about it and I would feel empty inside if I skipped it so trying to force it into my itinerary for at least a few nights.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by Sandeep1
Did 2 weeks in Japan in 2016 including Kyoto. Went again this year for cherry blossom. Going to Asia early next year and was planning on just Tokyo and Disney Tokyo for my Japan portion. But I simply cannot get Kyoto out of my head, there are so many things I like about it and I would feel empty inside if I skipped it so trying to force it into my itinerary for at least a few nights.
I really enjoy Kyoto. Have you ever visited Haradani-en Garden for Cherry Blossoms? It is a private garden, off the beaten path. They also have other flowers at different time of the year.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by northsideguy
I really enjoy Kyoto. Have you ever visited Haradani-en Garden for Cherry Blossoms? It is a private garden, off the beaten path. They also have other flowers at different time of the year.
I didn't on my last trip but I will keep that in mind for this one. I'm still thinking about it for budget reasons but leaning towards yes. Maybe I'll do AirBnB to save a few bucks.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 2:34 am
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Another way to save money is to fly. Discount air tickets can be up to half the price of shinkansen. A bit more hassle, but domestic air travel in Japan is quite easy. Only need to arrive at check-in 30 minutes before departure, for example.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 2:53 am
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Originally Posted by nishimark
Another way to save money is to fly. Discount air tickets can be up to half the price of shinkansen. A bit more hassle, but domestic air travel in Japan is quite easy. Only need to arrive at check-in 30 minutes before departure, for example.
Once you've paid for the train out to Narita and in from Kansai where the budget flights leave/arrive then most of the savings are wiped out. Haneda-Itami is a different story but you're not getting budget flights on that route
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 4:30 am
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Haneda to Kobe on Skymark: ~7000 yen
Sannomiya to Kyoto: 1100 yen
Shinkansen: ~13000 yen
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 9:42 am
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Would it be possible to route your stopover to be through KIX rather than through NRT, if returning to Kyoto is really a priority?
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Only spent a few days in or around Kyoto when I did Japan earlier this year, and one of those was a day trip to Nara so I only barely scratched the surface of the city. I think I enjoyed Tokyo just as much but Kyoto is such a contrast and has such a cool atmosphere to it. Certainly looking forward to going back next November.

Really looking forward to a second go of Japan in general. I felt like just as I was getting the swing of things, getting comfortable using the language, etc. it was time to come back to the US. Feel like I can hit the ground running next time.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 5:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jerseytom
Only spent a few days in or around Kyoto when I did Japan earlier this year, and one of those was a day trip to Nara so I only barely scratched the surface of the city. I think I enjoyed Tokyo just as much but Kyoto is such a contrast and has such a cool atmosphere to it. Certainly looking forward to going back next November.

Really looking forward to a second go of Japan in general. I felt like just as I was getting the swing of things, getting comfortable using the language, etc. it was time to come back to the US. Feel like I can hit the ground running next time.
Yeah I'm quite obsessed with Tokyo as well but Kyoto, as you said, is just totally different. You're getting the best of both worlds experiencing them both.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 6:14 pm
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Another possibility is stay in Kansai region the whole time. In addition to Kyoto, Nara and Himeji are a couple of other unique and interesting places. Actually, Kansai has a wide range of things to do. For the big city experience, Osaka is great and renown for food. If you want to go to a theme park, you can check out Universal Studios Japan.

https://www.japan-guide.com/list/e1105.html
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 11:17 pm
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I didn't even visit Tokyo the first three times I visited Japan, preferring instead to stay in Kyoto or Nara and explore the Kansai (Kinki) area instead. I share the fascination with the area and after several visits to Tokyo, just avoid it these days.
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Old Dec 20, 2019 | 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by abmj-jr
I didn't even visit Tokyo the first three times I visited Japan, preferring instead to stay in Kyoto or Nara and explore the Kansai (Kinki) area instead. I share the fascination with the area and after several visits to Tokyo, just avoid it these days.
I could understand that. I'm not sure why I love Tokyo as much as I do because I generally am a smaller city type of guy but there is an energy about it, different than anything I've found elsewhere.
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 12:56 am
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If you have such burning desire to squeeze in Kyoto, then just do it. Life is too short.
Personally I love Tokyo and vicinity and feel much more fulfilled in Tokyo, but everyone's different.

Planes (5000 UA miles for NH one-way + ~2k yen total each way for ground transport) are cheaper than train (~13k yen).
But it probably takes maybe 30+ minutes longer via plane vs train, when all is said and done.
So either option is fine.
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Old Dec 21, 2019 | 12:58 am
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Originally Posted by evergrn
If you have such burning desire to squeeze in Kyoto, then just do it. Life is too short.
Personally I love Tokyo and vicinity and feel much more fulfilled in Tokyo, but everyone's different.

Planes (5000 UA miles for NH one-way + ~2k yen total each way for ground transport) are cheaper than train (~13k yen).
But it probably takes maybe 30+ minutes longer via plane vs train, when all is said and done.
So either option is fine.
I've got a month in Asia planned currently without Kyoto. I could adjust and just add an extra ~4 days to the trip in order to do Kyoto, I just have to think about it. Usually after 4 weeks, I'm ready to come home.
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Old Dec 22, 2019 | 1:40 am
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Originally Posted by nishimark
Another way to save money is to fly. Discount air tickets can be up to half the price of shinkansen. A bit more hassle, but domestic air travel in Japan is quite easy. Only need to arrive at check-in 30 minutes before departure, for example.
Problem with domestic air travel in Jp is the luggage allowance if its part of a larger trip and you're carrying quite a bit...
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