avoid super long flight to tokyo?
#16




Join Date: Feb 2013
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The Hawaii thing still doesn't make sense to me. OP is going to take aeons (13-15hrs) first to go to Hawaii, then another 9hr flight to TYO? Going through Hawaii is such a roundabout way (and an expensive one) to get to Jpn. And I still don't see how that helps much with clock adjustment. MSP is only a couple hrs from upstate NY, and MSP is only 2.5-3hrs longer flight to TYO than HNL, actually. By the time he gets to Hawaii, he could just about be in Jpn.
Btw, my worst is having long (7+hrs) flights back-to-back. YYZ/ORD-HKG nonstops, no problem. But when we go USA to S.Africa, it's really rough. There's something perverse about having to step onboard an 11-hr flight at LHR when you haven't had the time to recuperate from an 8-hr flight you just came off of. Of course it'd help if you're in premium cabin, but that's not how most of us travel.
Btw, my worst is having long (7+hrs) flights back-to-back. YYZ/ORD-HKG nonstops, no problem. But when we go USA to S.Africa, it's really rough. There's something perverse about having to step onboard an 11-hr flight at LHR when you haven't had the time to recuperate from an 8-hr flight you just came off of. Of course it'd help if you're in premium cabin, but that's not how most of us travel.
#18
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Join Date: May 2014
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Ya, Hawaii isn't the best option, unless it's a destination of it's own on the way. In some ways I think I should just bite the bullet and make the long haul. But I wanted to explore the option of splitting it up before I go again.
#19




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I would just bite the bullet if I were you. Even from YYZ, we're only talking 3hrs longer than from SEA, YVR or HNL. And you could just drive there from where you live. Once upon a time I used to live not too far from where you are. I've driven to YYZ to take the nonstop to Jpn.
#20



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Toronto-Montreal-Zurich-HKG-Osaka then back transpacific.
I do not recommend a N America-Europe-Japan routing if your goal is to maximise comfort or avoid jetlag.
PS for the OP-start in Toronto, fly direct to Haneda on AC. If business class too much $$ keep an eye on Premium Economy fares. They go down to the $1700 Canadian range occasionally. or the lowest business class fares that you can get sometimes for $C3200 ~$US2400.

