New policy: from 16/12 ALL arrivals from abroad must be tested.
Jan 12, 2022, 12:26 pm
#31
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Got a predicament. Had a COVID-19 PCR test done yesterday in anticipation of arrival into Italy within 48 hours (tomorrow morning). However, my flight from the US to LHR cancelled today…. It looks like I’ll be arriving in Italy at 21:00, which is outside of the 48-hour window of my test now…
So now I don’t know what to do. Will my COVID-19 PCR test still be good for entry? Or am I screwed?
So now I don’t know what to do. Will my COVID-19 PCR test still be good for entry? Or am I screwed?
The options I'm thinking of at the moment are perhaps to do a self-administered LFT test of the kind that yields a result via email (in the UK I use chronomics and Klarity); both have allowed me to enter Italy.
I have to say that no one has ever really paid too much attention at my documentation when entering from the UK, but it's also true that I upload everything on the airline site prior to checking in so that might be where they do the check. The police on arrival sure as hell don't check.
Jan 12, 2022, 3:29 pm
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Jan 12, 2022, 4:10 pm
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Get a cheap lateral flow just before departure in the US. No way anyone will deny boarding when it satisfies both the UK and Italian requirements!
Jan 13, 2022, 12:11 am
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I think the lateral flow for Italy has to be within 24 hours before arrival into Italy. I don't know if the OPs schedule including their prior transatlantic would meet this.
Jan 13, 2022, 2:32 am
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UK-specific rules apply to transfer passengers as well. OP, maybe you can get rebooked on a direct US-IT flight?
Jan 13, 2022, 7:39 am
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I did not want to start a new thread. We are both Canadians and plan to book Singapore airlines from Milan to Singapore. Can we transit in Milan as CAD citizens flying in from Toronto(separate tickets) and then flying in from Singapore to Milan & transfer to Greece with Aegean(separate tickets).
Jan 13, 2022, 8:26 am
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I did not want to start a new thread. We are both Canadians and plan to book Singapore airlines from Milan to Singapore. Can we transit in Milan as CAD citizens flying in from Toronto(separate tickets) and then flying in from Singapore to Milan & transfer to Greece with Aegean(separate tickets).
1> Toronto-Singapore
2> Singapore-Milan
3> Milan-Greece (Athens?)
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Jan 13, 2022, 8:41 am
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Just to confirm, you're doing:
1> Toronto-ZRH-MXP (NO DIRECT FLIGHT) SAME DAY
2> Singapore-MXP
3> MXP-ATHENS (SAME DAY)
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1> Toronto-ZRH-MXP (NO DIRECT FLIGHT) SAME DAY
2> Singapore-MXP
3> MXP-ATHENS (SAME DAY)
Check out the questionnaire here: COVID-19 SURVEY (viaggiaresicuri.it)
Also, Sherpa – Move Freely (joinsherpa.com) is a good tool to use.
Jan 13, 2022, 8:41 am
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Just to confirm, you're doing:
1> Toronto-ZRH-MXP (NO DIRECT FLIGHT) SAME DAY
2> Singapore-MXP
3> MXP-ATHENS (SAME DAY)
Check out the questionnaire here: COVID-19 SURVEY (viaggiaresicuri.it)
Also, Sherpa – Move Freely (joinsherpa.com) is a good tool to use.
1> Toronto-ZRH-MXP (NO DIRECT FLIGHT) SAME DAY
2> Singapore-MXP
3> MXP-ATHENS (SAME DAY)
Check out the questionnaire here: COVID-19 SURVEY (viaggiaresicuri.it)
Also, Sherpa – Move Freely (joinsherpa.com) is a good tool to use.
Jan 13, 2022, 8:54 am
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OK, it is a bit of a convoluted journey and personally I wouldn't want do that in this day and age, but I ignore your specifics.
don't have a clue as to whether Singapore will allow you to enter, so can't comment on that, but as far as I know you shouldn't have any issues entering Italy through Switzerland from Canada. You will need to be tested in order to do this journey.
As for entering Italy from Singapore, this is where it gets tricky. For whatever reason, Singapore is in "List E" for Italy, meaning "no bueno". Why Singapore is in that list, don't know. This is what the link I was mentioning earlier says for a non-resident wishing to enter Italy from Singapore:
This is valid until 31/01/22 and might be extended thereafter.
You are 'transferring' on another flight, but it's on a separate ticket. So for SQ at SIN you're looking as if you're landing in Italy and they might not allow you to board the flight. There is an exemption for transfers through Italy but it refers only on travelling by private means and flights don't fall under that category.
bottom line - you might have trouble flying SQ SIN-MXP. I don't know if there's a direct flight to Greece from Singapore, or another European hub on which to transfer, but I would consider that.
don't have a clue as to whether Singapore will allow you to enter, so can't comment on that, but as far as I know you shouldn't have any issues entering Italy through Switzerland from Canada. You will need to be tested in order to do this journey.
As for entering Italy from Singapore, this is where it gets tricky. For whatever reason, Singapore is in "List E" for Italy, meaning "no bueno". Why Singapore is in that list, don't know. This is what the link I was mentioning earlier says for a non-resident wishing to enter Italy from Singapore:
Since you are leaving from a Country included in List E, or you have visited (or transited) a Country of List E in the 14 days prior to your trip to Italy, you must fill out a digital Passenger Locator Form (or, in case of lack of necessary technology, a self-declaration) indicating that you fall into one or more of the following categories:
- proven work reasons;
- absolute urgency;
- health reasons;
- study;
- return to one’s home, domicile or residence;
- citizens of the European Union (Italy included), of Schengen Member States, Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City;
- family members of persons listed under letter f), as defined in Articles 2 and 3 of Directive 2004/38/EC dated April 29 2004;
- non-European Union citizens (third-country nationals) holding long-term residence status in a European Union country, in accordance with Council Directive 2003/109/EC;
- family members of the persons holding long-term residence status (letter h);
- entry into the national territory to reach the domicile / home / residence of a person referred to in letters f) and h) of this list, even if not cohabiting, with whom there is a proven and stable affective relationship.
You are 'transferring' on another flight, but it's on a separate ticket. So for SQ at SIN you're looking as if you're landing in Italy and they might not allow you to board the flight. There is an exemption for transfers through Italy but it refers only on travelling by private means and flights don't fall under that category.
bottom line - you might have trouble flying SQ SIN-MXP. I don't know if there's a direct flight to Greece from Singapore, or another European hub on which to transfer, but I would consider that.
Jan 13, 2022, 9:00 am
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Thank you very much, I am not concerned about entering SIN as I know the rules for that, so I may abandon Italy altogether and focus on Sweden. I know its convoluted but we fly to Europe and Singapore yearly, but now it has become challenging. Thank you for your insight.
Jan 13, 2022, 9:05 am
#43
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Thank you very much, I am not concerned about entering SIN as I know the rules for that, so I may abandon Italy altogether and focus on Sweden. I know its convoluted but we fly to Europe and Singapore yearly, but now it has become challenging. Thank you for your insight.
Jan 13, 2022, 9:14 am
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Departing Toronto March 31
Departing Singapore April 9
Arrival in Europe April 10
Departing Europe April 15
Jan 16, 2022, 2:18 pm
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TIA.