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Old May 29, 2015 | 6:59 am
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Question Technical question on itineraries HELP!

OK, I have a technical question.
I live in DFW

Let's say that I just found a killer deal long haul mileage run flight, say somewhere in Asia for peanuts with the following itinerary:

LGA-DFW-"X PLACE"-DFW-LGA

If I do the same search on the same day, same exact flights, times, everything, but with this itinerary, then the price is triple the price than the above one (which is dumb and stupid):

DFW-"X PLACE"-DFW (in other words, suppressing the LGA portion)

Can I purchase the first itinerary and never use the LGA-DFW and DFW-LGA legs?, just show up at DFW for the DFW-"X PLACE" flight and on the way back just disembark at DFW and good bye? Would I encounter any issues or problems?

Please just the pros answer, people who have actually done or experience this, no second guessing. I would appreciate it.

Thanks!

PD: I'm sorry, I apologize for the confusion. I didn't mean to be rude, or agressive and definitely was not trying to hide details, I just didn't think that it was relevant, the destination was either PVG or PEK, I can't remember which and it was 2 weeks ago when I started to search for my mile run, those rates are long gone. Again, I'm sorry.

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Old May 29, 2015 | 7:11 am
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X-Y-Z-Y-X is a different product from Y-Z-Y. Different market with different competitors, customers, etc.

And no, you cannot just show up at DFW and board your flight. If you do not show up at LGA the airline will mark you a no-show and the ticket is void.

You could potential skip DFW-LGA. Make sure to have no checked bags.
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Old May 29, 2015 | 7:32 am
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1. Until you tell us what carrier and what "X-place" is, you won't get a definitive answer. No reason to play NSA here. The facts are important.

2. The general rule is that if you no show for a segment the remainder of the ticket is cancelled and retains whatever value the fare rules provide. If you have found a great deal, it is likely that it is a non-refundable ticket. In that case, your ticket will be cancelled and you may find that you have anywhere from $0 to a credit for the ticket less a fee, typically between $300-500.

3. On the return, you may be able to skip the final segment because you don't care about the ticket being cancelled, but you won't receive any mileage for it and that is presumably one of the goals here.

Again, provide some facts and you will get pin-point accuracy answers.
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Old May 29, 2015 | 12:58 pm
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Originally Posted by pmchauvet
OK, I have a technical question.
I live in DFW

Let's say that I just found a killer deal long haul mileage run flight, say somewhere in Asia for peanuts with the following itinerary:

LGA-DFW-"X PLACE"-DFW-LGA

If I do the same search on the same day, same exact flights, times, everything, but with this itinerary, then the price is triple the price than the above one (which is dumb and stupid):

DFW-"X PLACE"-DFW (in other words, suppressing the LGA portion)

Can I purchase the first itinerary and never use the LGA-DFW and DFW-LGA legs?, just show up at DFW for the DFW-"X PLACE" flight and on the way back just disembark at DFW and good bye? Would I encounter any issues or problems?

Please just the pros answer, people who have actually done or experience this, no second guessing. I would appreciate it.

Thanks!
That's a bit much. Welcome to FT, but take it easy!

If you don't show for your first flight (ex-LGA in your example) the rest of your itinerary will be cancelled and you won't be getting on any flights. On the return, you can drop the last flight (to LGA in your example) without any consequences, unless you do it daily.
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Old May 29, 2015 | 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
That's a bit much. Welcome to FT, but take it easy!

If you don't show for your first flight (ex-LGA in your example) the rest of your itinerary will be cancelled and you won't be getting on any flights. On the return, you can drop the last flight (to LGA in your example) without any consequences, unless you do it daily.
However, on the return your checked bags are going to LGA even if you don't. The exception would be if you go through customs at DFW and can just walk out with your bags there without needing to recheck them to get them to DTW baggage claim.
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Old May 29, 2015 | 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
That's a bit much. Welcome to FT, but take it easy!

If you don't show for your first flight (ex-LGA in your example) the rest of your itinerary will be cancelled and you won't be getting on any flights. On the return, you can drop the last flight (to LGA in your example) without any consequences, unless you do it daily.
However, on the return your checked bags are going to LGA even if you don't. The exception would be if you go through customs at DFW and can just walk out with your bags there without needing to recheck them to get them to DTW baggage claim.
The OP would be flying from "somewhere in Asia" to DFW. How could his checked baggage not have to go through Customs at DFW?
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Old May 29, 2015 | 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by pmchauvet

Please just the pros answer, people who have actually done or experience this, no second guessing. I would appreciate it.
Any other conditions you'd like to add to who can answer?

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1. Until you tell us what carrier and what "X-place" is, you won't get a definitive answer. No reason to play NSA here. The facts are important.
HKG I would guess? Not sure why there is a need for leaving out the destination.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...l#post24879684
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Old May 29, 2015 | 8:57 pm
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Google "hidden city ticketing" and you will find your answer. I'm fairly certian you already know the answer.
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Originally Posted by pmchauvet
OK, I have a technical question.
I live in DFW

Let's say that I just found a killer deal long haul mileage run flight, say somewhere in Asia for peanuts with the following itinerary:

LGA-DFW-"X PLACE"-DFW-LGA

If I do the same search on the same day, same exact flights, times, everything, but with this itinerary, then the price is triple the price than the above one (which is dumb and stupid):

DFW-"X PLACE"-DFW (in other words, suppressing the LGA portion)

Can I purchase the first itinerary and never use the LGA-DFW and DFW-LGA legs?, just show up at DFW for the DFW-"X PLACE" flight and on the way back just disembark at DFW and good bye? Would I encounter any issues or problems?

Please just the pros answer, people who have actually done or experience this, no second guessing. I would appreciate it.

Thanks!
Miss the first flight, see the itinerary cancel. Full stop.

Hidden-city ticketers either have to buy one-way fares or save the trick for the second half of a round-trip, since once they fail to show up for a flight any subsequent segments on the same itinerary will be cancelled. What is more, they can’t check luggage, which would be sent on to their stated final destination. In addition, they run the risk of being rebooked on a different route to their official destination in the event of a delayed flight or bad weather. And since most airlines’ conditions of carriage expressly forbid the practice, people who do it often enough to attract the company’s attention can have their frequent-flier accounts suspended, miles voided and any elite status revoked. - The Economist
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Old May 30, 2015 | 6:09 am
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I apologize...

First of all, I would like to apologize for the mess and confusion that I have caused, I meant no harm and there was no secrecy about it. I'll explain.

About 10-12 days ago I started to search for a long mile run trip and I came across either PVG or PEK destinations, I'm not sure which, but starting the trip in LGA the price was like seven hundred and change and if I started the trip in DFW it was like $1900, so it occurred to me the "what if" and that the reason of me posting this question, even though I never booked that and that deal is long gone. However, I managed to get the DFW-HKG and I already posted for anybody else to take advantage of.

I also didn't mean to be aggressive by asking just the people with the direct experience on the subject, as you would imagine, let's say that somebody answered this post by second guessing (not with the intention to cause harm) and me later on with another scenario like it or anybody else that read the post making the mistake and then, well, you all know the consequences by now I guess, most of you have answered it pretty clear. So again, I'm sorry and I apologize if I sounded rude, it was not my intention.

By the way, I never do check-in luggage (I just don't trust the airlines with my luggage getting to my destination at the same time that I do), I only travel with a carry-on, therefore if my proposed "idea" would have worked, luggage would had not been an issue.^

If it makes you all laugh, last but not least, I thought about this idea on the same principle as someone missing the departure of a cruise and then "catching it" at a later port. LOL!!!
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