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If you read the policy, you will see that this is way way way blown out of proportion. There is nothing new.
Any elite purchasing a Y fare gets UG ahead of those purchasing lesser fare bases. DL does not look at what was paid for the Y fare. Some organizations, including the government and some larger businesses, negotiate discounts. If your organization negotiates a 25% discount and you purchase what is published as a $1,000 Y fare, you will pay $750 and you will be UG ahead of a higher level elite who pays $900 for a B fare.
This is only more evident in the government context because the discounts are public and recognized in the fare coding as YCA.
Note, before jumping of a cliff, that this applies only to people travelling on YCA fares, which is far from all government travelers.
DL is free -- as are UA & AA -- to shift to a fare paid analysis for UG and not even consider fare basis. But, none of the legacies do and I would not expect it to happen.
Any elite purchasing a Y fare gets UG ahead of those purchasing lesser fare bases. DL does not look at what was paid for the Y fare. Some organizations, including the government and some larger businesses, negotiate discounts. If your organization negotiates a 25% discount and you purchase what is published as a $1,000 Y fare, you will pay $750 and you will be UG ahead of a higher level elite who pays $900 for a B fare.
This is only more evident in the government context because the discounts are public and recognized in the fare coding as YCA.
Note, before jumping of a cliff, that this applies only to people travelling on YCA fares, which is far from all government travelers.
DL is free -- as are UA & AA -- to shift to a fare paid analysis for UG and not even consider fare basis. But, none of the legacies do and I would not expect it to happen.
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This is what causes the upset here. The guy sitting next to you may work for a Fortune 100 and pay 60% of what you do for the equivalent fare basis and he may be an automatic GS and receive other perks. But, you will never know. The government guy travels on a specific fare code, YCA, and the terms of the deal under which he travels is public.
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The point is that free elite upgrades have been earned; they are not like surprise gifts from the airline (as an OPUP would be).
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But, as with award seat availability, the mechanism governing free elite upgrades is virtually opaque. So they might as well be "surprise gifts" given their unpredictability.

