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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:27 am
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here is an option at approx $2300 USD (i dont think you are going to get to much cheaper)

Toronto (YYZ) to Munich (MUC) - Sun, Jul 6
Air Canada Air Canada 846 Dep: 8:10PM Arr: 10:05AM 7h 55m Airbus A330 Business (Z)
Mon, Jul 7

Munich (MUC) to Toronto (YYZ) - Mon, Jul 14
Deutsche Lufthansa AG Munich (MUC) to Milan (MXP) - Mon, Jul 14
Deutsche Lufthansa AG 1852 Dep: 7:15AM Arr: 8:20AM 1h 5m Embraer RJ-195 Business (Z)
OPERATED BY AIR DOLOMITI S.P.A. LINEE Layover in MXP 4h 0m

Air Canada Milan (MXP) to Toronto (YYZ) - Mon, Jul 14
Air Canada 843 Dep: 12:20PM Arr: 3:40PM 9h 20m Boeing 767 Business (Z)

Cost per passenger (including taxes & fees) $2,303.00
Total cost for 1 passenger $2,303.00
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:36 am
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The only issue i see with the above itinerary is the erj flight, for someone who has a fear of tight spaces that may be an issue
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:39 am
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considering that the price of the economy seat is approx $1000, biz at 2300 is a good value, I would book it.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:42 am
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What's ERJ?

And how did you find that so quickly/easily? What engine do you search with?

Thanks!
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:47 am
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Originally Posted by eishv
What's ERJ?

And how did you find that so quickly/easily? What engine do you search with?

Thanks!
Embraer Regional Jet - they're reasonably spacious for regional jets, but are certainly smaller than, say an A320 or 737. They're used typically on short haul routes. They're not bad, and I imagine you'd be OK in one up front.

He used ITA matrix to find it (http://matrix.itasoftware.com) but you can't book there - Hipmunk (and quite a few others) use the same search engine.

Traveling in August should mean reasonably priced summer business class sales to europe, similar to what was posted above.

In Matrix, for your departure city put in (without quotes) "yyz,dtw" to search from both YYZ and DTW. In the destination box put in "muc" (or any other nearby cities that have decent train options to MUC), select flexible dates and search for August for the length of time you want to be in Europe; finally select business class or higher in the cabin option.

Voila, you should see a calendar of departure dates and prices, once you find the one you want, it might be easily found on Hipmunk or Kayak, if not, we can help you find a way to book it.

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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 10:58 am
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You can also keep an eye on the following thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/milea...2014-a-68.html

Good deals in business and first class are posted there - but it's certainly hit and miss, and not just limited to europe.
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Old Mar 24, 2014 | 12:59 pm
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You can also try google.com/flights. Put the in cities that you can leave from like YYZ,DTW and the cities you are considering flying to like MUC,FRA,ZUR and pick business class. If you want to get an idea about how long the train takes to get between cities and the cost try bahn.com.
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Old Mar 25, 2014 | 11:32 pm
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Originally Posted by smachiz
they are often synonymous for "domestic" flights, but for international, there's a big difference in the soft product (you'll get better champagne, caviar on most airlines, more meal courses, and better ground service/lounge). The hard product varies from incrementally better to dramatically better (in terms of seat space, comfort and type), but in general, you can expect lie-flat beds in either class of service across the pond.

For your purposes, business class ought to be good enough.

What is a "reasonable" amount of money for you to spend to get there in business class? and how many miles do you have and in which programs?
Not true in all cases. Some airlines, IIRC AA and UA, still offer both FC and business class on some domestic flights such as nonstop coast-to-coast.

However, AFAIK Air Canada only offers business class internationally, not FC, and has no genuine three-cabin domestic flights either, although I'm not sure what they do about premium economy or economy plus currently.
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