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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 6:54 pm
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Is this still "hidden city"?

Hi, Here is the situation/question:

I'm gonna be in Istanbul for 3 months this summer. A round-trip flight from Chicago to Istanbul (departure:June, return:September) is $1950.
But if I add another round-trip from Istanbul to -say- London within this 3 month period, the price goes down to $1200. For example,

1. June 11 - CHI-IST
2. July 11 - IST-LON
3. July 25 - LON-IST
4. Sep 18 - IST-CHI

This whole multi-city ticket is much cheaper. Note that there are no connecting flights or layovers. So, if I don't go to London from Istanbul (That is, skip flights 2 and 3), do you think I can still take the flight back from Istanbul to Chicago in September? Or, would the airline consider this as "hidden city ticketing" and cancel my return ticket (ticket 4)?

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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 7:13 pm
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That's not hidden city ticketing. If you don't do flight 2 or 3, you would almost certainly have your IST-CHI cancelled. Hidden city would be, for example, CHI-IST, IST-CHI-CLE where you don't take the CHI-CLE. Of course, if you actually want to do the "middle" trip to London, perfectly OK and a nice savings.

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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 7:15 pm
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So just spend a weekend in London.

Problem solved.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 7:33 am
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100% ticket cancellation if you don't take the middle segment.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by dukerau
That's not hidden city ticketing. If you don't do flight 2 or 3, you would almost certainly have your IST-CHI cancelled. Hidden city would be, for example, CHI-IST, IST-CHI-CLE where you don't take the CHI-CLE. Of course, if you actually want to do the "middle" trip to London, perfectly OK and a nice savings.
The OP said he did not plan on flying IST-LON its hidden city if its on one ticket
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 1:44 pm
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Under your scenario, if you fail to take the London side trip, your return to the states would be cancelled.

As someone mentioned, take a weekend trip to LON.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 1:51 pm
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OP, can I please ask which site you would price something like that out on?

I find it shocking that it can be that easy to drop costs, and would like to try it on a future trip.

Thanks, if possible...
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by alexteacher
OP, can I please ask which site you would price something like that out on?

I find it shocking that it can be that easy to drop costs, and would like to try it on a future trip.

Thanks, if possible...
Sounds like the fare may be a ORD-LON with stop-overs in IST? I'm guessing this is a Turkish flight? Airfare is priced by market not distance.
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Doc Savage
So just spend a weekend in London.

Problem solved.
Only if the fare allows two stopovers in IST...
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Old Mar 5, 2014 | 3:20 pm
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If its TK i got it down to $1100 in ITA for those days w/ the LON flights.

Outbound is VHV3XPC and return is THV3XPC if both ways are THV3XPC that would be about $1200

This fare does allow stop-over in each direction. Currently only the lowest fare which is a W does not allow stop-over but all the others do.
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Old Mar 7, 2014 | 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by CDKing
Sounds like the fare may be a ORD-LON with stop-overs in IST? I'm guessing this is a Turkish flight? Airfare is priced by market not distance.
Thanks.

I'm just starting to explore this hidden city type of booking.

My first experience with getting a bit more bang for my money was when I wanted to go to the west coast of Canada on a US Airways award and was able to get ICN-YVR-LAX-CUN-LAX-BKK-ICN for the same number of points (60,000 at the time) as I would have gotten ICN-YVR-ICN for.

It blew my mind in a good way.

Now I'd like to learn how to creatively do more with paid fares...
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 6:45 pm
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This does apply to the whole ticketing ploy principle, HCT in particular, because in this case IST is a fortress hub for TK and so ending (or staying, then returning from) there would fetch a higher fare; using it as the cxn would lower it.

If OP can do a o.w. on TK for 1/2 that $1,200...then find a good deal o.w. back to ORD on another carrier, then he can do it HCT. And that's a big IF...
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Old Mar 8, 2014 | 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by alexteacher
Thanks.

I'm just starting to explore this hidden city type of booking.

My first experience with getting a bit more bang for my money was when I wanted to go to the west coast of Canada on a US Airways award and was able to get ICN-YVR-LAX-CUN-LAX-BKK-ICN for the same number of points (60,000 at the time) as I would have gotten ICN-YVR-ICN for.

It blew my mind in a good way.

Now I'd like to learn how to creatively do more with paid fares...
I've done a few of these incredible award bangs:

1. MAIN-HAWAII-MAIN for 12.5K total, then a short USA-USA for 7.5K

2. USA-USA-USA-Peru-USA-USA-USA for 12.5K total

3. USA-USA-USA-USA-Uruguay-USA-USA for 12.5K total on Airline A, then a short USA-USA for 8K on Airline B

4. MAIN-MAIN-MAIN-Hawaii-MAIN for 12.5K total

My favorite is when irrOps happen and these awards are forced-converted into rev tix - makes for mind-blowing cpm's
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by alexteacher
OP, can I please ask which site you would price something like that out on?

I find it shocking that it can be that easy to drop costs, and would like to try it on a future trip.

Thanks, if possible...
OP is probably flying with TK,TK tickets are almost always sustantially cheaper to other places than IST.

F.EX : I am a Norwegian living in Turkey,traweling rather frequently to Argentina. A OSL-IST-EZE costs me on an average at least 500-600 USD less than IST-EZE,thats economy,in Biz the difference is substantially more,and they include stopovers,in my particular situation its an understatement to say that its kind of neat!!!
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Old Mar 18, 2014 | 3:35 pm
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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
Only if the fare allows two stopovers in IST...
I play With TK stopovers all the time,my experience is that the fare always alows 1,the second is something like 50euro,BTW,1 SO at the begining/end should be enough for OP.
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