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obelix1 Feb 3, 2018 7:16 pm

Based on inquiry to RPO, my application is still waiting for report from Home and Finance ministry.

Did anyone from August get conditional approval? I think most folks who got so far had submitted in July.

anirudh666 Feb 4, 2018 8:50 am


Originally Posted by obelix1 (Post 29376722)
Based on inquiry to RPO, my application is still waiting for report from Home and Finance ministry.

Did anyone from August get conditional approval? I think most folks who got so far had submitted in July.

What information did you provide when you filled in the grievance request on the Indian passport website? I tried to use my application reference number, but I was told via email that the passport office can't find my file.

obelix1 Feb 4, 2018 12:02 pm


Originally Posted by anirudh666 (Post 29378027)
What information did you provide when you filled in the grievance request on the Indian passport website? I tried to use my application reference number, but I was told via email that the passport office can't find my file.

Didn't go through grievance inquiry. My father in law went to see the head of RPO directly who himself was a senior govt. officer. RPO head looked at details and then told him the situation. He has promised to follow-up with those two ministries. I had met head of RPO myself when we (me and my wife) did the application but he was transferred couple of months back. This is a new guy so he didn't know much about it. But, very helpful.

Keyser - Would you know which dept. in Finance ministry handling this report? I've a cousin who is IAS and oversees the revenue dept in North Block. I've two travel coming-up so trying to get this done, if possible.

anirudh666 Feb 4, 2018 1:24 pm


Originally Posted by obelix1 (Post 29378616)
Didn't go through grievance inquiry. My father in law went to see the head of RPO directly who himself was a senior govt. officer. RPO head looked at details and then told him the situation. He has promised to follow-up with those two ministries. I had met head of RPO myself when we (me and my wife) did the application but he was transferred couple of months back. This is a new guy so he didn't know much about it. But, very helpful.

Keyser - Would you know which dept. in Finance ministry handling this report? I've a cousin who is IAS and oversees the revenue dept in North Block. I've two travel coming-up so trying to get this done, if possible.

So I’ve got to wait and hope that my file is approved before my visa expires

This is just great 😐

Keyser Feb 5, 2018 4:43 am


Originally Posted by obelix1 (Post 29378616)
Keyser - Would you know which dept. in Finance ministry handling this report? I've a cousin who is IAS and oversees the revenue dept in North Block. I've two travel coming-up so trying to get this done, if possible.

no clue....

Acid Feb 5, 2018 9:14 am


Originally Posted by anirudh666 (Post 29378903)


So I’ve got to wait and hope that my file is approved before my visa expires

This is just great 😐

I was thinking about it. Every time we get a new I-797 or a new passport we need to go see the GE office and update the details(no appointment needed). My assumption is same will be for stamped visa.
Now if you have extended your stay in US(so a valid I-94) but expired visa stamp - I doubt they will approve GE.

anirudh666 Feb 5, 2018 10:51 am


Originally Posted by Acid (Post 29381726)
I was thinking about it. Every time we get a new I-797 or a new passport we need to go see the GE office and update the details(no appointment needed). My assumption is same will be for stamped visa.
Now if you have extended your stay in US(so a valid I-94) but expired visa stamp - I doubt they will approve GE.

If your visa was valid at the time you went for Indian background check, they can conditionally approve. Then, if your visa expires after getting conditionally approved, you take an appointment with the US CBP, and keep postponing the appointment until you have a valid visa stamp. Once you get visa stamped, then go for interview with US CBP at their GE enrollment center. The visa details can be updated by the CBP officer during your interview.

obelix1 Feb 5, 2018 5:56 pm


Originally Posted by Keyser (Post 29380955)
no clue....

No worries, thanks for coming back.

obelix1 Feb 5, 2018 6:00 pm


Originally Posted by anirudh666 (Post 29382095)
If your visa was valid at the time you went for Indian background check, they can conditionally approve. Then, if your visa expires after getting conditionally approved, you take an appointment with the US CBP, and keep postponing the appointment until you have a valid visa stamp. Once you get visa stamped, then go for interview with US CBP at their GE enrollment center. The visa details can be updated by the CBP officer during your interview.

I think I'll be good sample :p. My wife was stamped till 2020 but I was till Nov 2017 only. Submitted together in Aug and they did take the copies of visa stamps. So, will see how this plays out. I did get stamped till 2020 but that's not linked to my application, yet. I'd agree with your assessment.

obelix1 Feb 7, 2018 5:47 pm

So, not sure if that did the trick but we got conditional approval earlier today ;). Looks like some things still works in India :p. Home and Finance ministry did have to give some level of clearance (report) as they were followed-up last week by RPO head. So, safe to assume, approval came after that. Can't comment on how it would differ for person living in India vs USA. I live within 15min from EWR so will be visiting in next few days.

Passportindia.gov still shows "GEP Verification Process has been initiated......". etc.

Acid Feb 8, 2018 9:14 am


Originally Posted by obelix1 (Post 29392038)
So, not sure if that did the trick but we got conditional approval earlier today ;). Looks like some things still works in India :p. Home and Finance ministry did have to give some level of clearance (report) as they were followed-up last week by RPO head. So, safe to assume, approval came after that. Can't comment on how it would differ for person living in India vs USA. I live within 15min from EWR so will be visiting in next few days.

Passportindia.gov still shows "GEP Verification Process has been initiated......". etc.

Congrats! I'll try tweeting to the RPO :)
Don't you need appointment for GE Interview at EWR? I've heard there are long wait times....

anirudh666 Feb 8, 2018 10:01 am


Originally Posted by obelix1 (Post 29392038)
So, not sure if that did the trick but we got conditional approval earlier today ;). Looks like some things still works in India :p. Home and Finance ministry did have to give some level of clearance (report) as they were followed-up last week by RPO head. So, safe to assume, approval came after that. Can't comment on how it would differ for person living in India vs USA. I live within 15min from EWR so will be visiting in next few days.

Passportindia.gov still shows "GEP Verification Process has been initiated......". etc.

I will ask my parents to check at the RPO. I don’t know anyone working personally at the RPO. Any tips for making enquiries at the RPO?


Acid Feb 8, 2018 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by anirudh666 (Post 29394432)


I will ask my parents to check at the RPO. I don’t know anyone working personally at the RPO. Any tips for making enquiries at the RPO?




I visited the RPO in Bandra Mumbai in December (not for GE, but with someone else for another issue). The customer service counters are staffed with frustrated staff who will read whatever info they see once they scan your barcode(basically the same status you see on PSK site). If you yell and create a scene - they will refer you to go see an actual officer. While I was there, I saw 2 girls absolutely angry at not getting police clearance and hence passports for more than 8 months. RPO would send them to CID office in town, who in turn would send them back to Bandra RPO. Finally they were allowed to go see the officer upstairs. While I was there, I inquired about Global Entry. No one knew what this whole process is. They called another senior guy to help - who made couple of phone calls(on his personal cell) and just left saying they didn't know anything about my application.

Edit: My point is - unless you can get through to actual RPO officers - don't waste time there.

obelix1 Feb 8, 2018 5:33 pm


Originally Posted by Acid (Post 29394232)
Congrats! I'll try tweeting to the RPO :)
Don't you need appointment for GE Interview at EWR? I've heard there are long wait times....

Thanks. Yes, they don't do walk-ins. I'll make an appointment. They have availability in odd hours so will have to try again.

It's not like I'm trading 8hrs of wait to get a GC instead of 8yrs :p. So, I'd not have done walk-in even if that was an option. It's just a nice to have perk.

obelix1 Feb 8, 2018 5:47 pm


Originally Posted by anirudh666 (Post 29394432)


I will ask my parents to check at the RPO. I don’t know anyone working personally at the RPO. Any tips for making enquiries at the RPO?


I think couple of things are very clear. It will take time, and based on what we have seen so far, it is 5-6months to say the least (for US resident). Also, approval will come unless there was an issue with police report which I think passport portal shows in the status (no personal experience though). I don't think there are serious inquiries by Home/Finance ministry as such.

Besides, trying to get hold of somebody senior via phone or email who can actually see what's going on. As Acid said, RPO staff still don't know what it is so one can keep running around in circle with them. So, if do you send somebody then just try to get hold of someone who is APO at least.

For personal application, I'd avoid social media and do it more discreetly.

For policies/process, we should definitely push for separate channel for people who live in US as it doesn't make sense for them to go for police verification in India, and social media awareness can help us.


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