Kingfisher to introduce BLR-SFO nonstop flight
Mar 17, 2008, 2:37 pm
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Checkout Lufthansa's microsite http://www.weflyhome.com. I see promotional fares under $1000 for a few Indian cities from US. These are targeted at leisure travelers and have restrictions (advance purchase, Sat night stay, etc.) but are good deals for price conscious travelers.
Except Feb/March (or thereabouts) LH fares are not inexpensive. For BLR anyway.
Mar 17, 2008, 2:40 pm
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You hit upon a secret for J class travel to India. If you're traveling on your own dime and are cost sensitive but prefer J class, your best best is to route via BKK. Flts to BKK seem to be full in Y and not that full in J and so you often see very competitive J fares (and local market conditions do support this). With increased connectivity to BKK from various Indian cities you don't lose much on schedule (BLR had two flts a day on some peak days this winter; JetLite without J class is starting Amritsar to BKK I believe).
Apr 1, 2008, 3:36 pm
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New York will be the second american destination after San Francisco, with flights from Bangalore using A340-500s.
Apr 23, 2008, 4:09 pm
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Blr Dep 11:30 PM - JFK Arr 7AM (same day)
JFK Dep 10 AM - BLR Arr 12noon (next day)
Apr 23, 2008, 10:44 pm
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Apr 24, 2008, 12:10 am
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No one says you have to use TG. I have used AI connecting with NW, with 5-6 hours layover in BKK. If you were connecting in SIN, it's a different story.
Apr 24, 2008, 12:14 am
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Why the change in slots... it makes for a very inefficent use of aircraft. I guess the A330s will be employed on domestic sectors or something...
If you read previous posts, you'll see why there's plenty of demand up front, down back (don't forget the connections) & down below in the hold. If you discount the weak American market, the Indian market will simply exploit this flight themselves...
I thought the flight was to begin in the late summer, is that soon enough?
If you read previous posts, you'll see why there's plenty of demand up front, down back (don't forget the connections) & down below in the hold. If you discount the weak American market, the Indian market will simply exploit this flight themselves...
I thought the flight was to begin in the late summer, is that soon enough?
Apr 24, 2008, 2:46 pm
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BLR-SFO non stop just isn't lucrative enough. If Kingfisher does start it, it will not be a moneymaker flight. BOM and DEL are much bigger markets, with larger population base and bigger economy. BLR-SFO with a connection somewhere in Asia or Europe would generate more revenue for the airline.
Yes, BOM & DEL are bigger but they aren't as lucrative as this niche market! Not launching non-stop would give it no competitive advantage vs. Lufthansa, Singapore Air etc.
Apr 24, 2008, 6:16 pm
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Bangalore & San Francisco are the silicon valleys of their respective countries. They both have huge amounts of trade & business between them. Lufthansa alone flies a B747-400 scheduled to fly BLR-FRA-SFO since the connecting passenger volumes are so big. Without the SFO connection, I dout LH would offer a B747 on FRA-BLR. BA also does well on the route. A non-stop will tap into the market at the top end & will generate excellent revenues up front & in the hold. IT's excellent connections will fill the back end. Yes, BOM & DEL are bigger but they aren't as lucrative as this niche market! Not launching non-stop would give it no competitive advantage vs. Lufthansa, Singapore Air etc.
Apr 28, 2008, 11:23 am
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Where'd you find that out?!
Bangalore & San Francisco are the silicon valleys of their respective countries. They both have huge amounts of trade & business between them. Lufthansa alone flies a B747-400 scheduled to fly BLR-FRA-SFO since the connecting passenger volumes are so big. Without the SFO connection, I dout LH would offer a B747 on FRA-BLR. BA also does well on the route. A non-stop will tap into the market at the top end & will generate excellent revenues up front & in the hold. IT's excellent connections will fill the back end.
Yes, BOM & DEL are bigger but they aren't as lucrative as this niche market! Not launching non-stop would give it no competitive advantage vs. Lufthansa, Singapore Air etc.
Bangalore & San Francisco are the silicon valleys of their respective countries. They both have huge amounts of trade & business between them. Lufthansa alone flies a B747-400 scheduled to fly BLR-FRA-SFO since the connecting passenger volumes are so big. Without the SFO connection, I dout LH would offer a B747 on FRA-BLR. BA also does well on the route. A non-stop will tap into the market at the top end & will generate excellent revenues up front & in the hold. IT's excellent connections will fill the back end.
Yes, BOM & DEL are bigger but they aren't as lucrative as this niche market! Not launching non-stop would give it no competitive advantage vs. Lufthansa, Singapore Air etc.
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Apr 28, 2008, 11:24 am
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Apr 28, 2008, 2:44 pm
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The problem with your statement is the assumption that every passenger on the BLR-FRA flight is there because they are going to SFO, and every passenger on FRA-SFO has also originated in BLR. That BLR needs more flights is not disputed. But that BLR will be used to serve only SFO is.
Jun 27, 2008, 5:42 pm
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BLR-SFO non stop just isn't lucrative enough. If Kingfisher does start it, it will not be a moneymaker flight. BOM and DEL are much bigger markets, with larger population base and bigger economy. BLR-SFO with a connection somewhere in Asia or Europe would generate more revenue for the airline.
Bangalore & San Francisco are the silicon valleys of their respective countries. They both have huge amounts of trade & business between them. Lufthansa alone flies a B747-400 scheduled to fly BLR-FRA-SFO since the connecting passenger volumes are so big. Without the SFO connection, I dout LH would offer a B747 on FRA-BLR. BA also does well on the route. A non-stop will tap into the market at the top end & will generate excellent revenues up front & in the hold. IT's excellent connections will fill the back end.
Yes, BOM & DEL are bigger but they aren't as lucrative as this niche market! Not launching non-stop would give it no competitive advantage vs. Lufthansa, Singapore Air etc.
Yes, BOM & DEL are bigger but they aren't as lucrative as this niche market! Not launching non-stop would give it no competitive advantage vs. Lufthansa, Singapore Air etc.
"Due to the increase in crude oil prices and no signs of stability in the market, we are re-evaluating all our plans for international operations, keeping in mind costs and route network," Kingfisher Airlines Executive Vice-president Hitesh Patel said in reply to a questionnaire.
The airline was scheduled to launch its international operations with a Bangalore-San Francisco service on August 27. Now, informed sources said, the airline is re-evaluating whether it should launch the service or defer it for a few months. A final decision will be taken in a day or two.
The airline was scheduled to launch its international operations with a Bangalore-San Francisco service on August 27. Now, informed sources said, the airline is re-evaluating whether it should launch the service or defer it for a few months. A final decision will be taken in a day or two.