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I think that AI has a superior onboard experience compared to the airlines you listed. But it seriously lags them in many other ways such as the competence/reliability of ground staff, call center agents and the website. I know you feel that the website does the job, but I think it's horrible. It has the features and functionalities of the 1990s. Not 2000s and definitely not 2010s.


Website has improved quite a bit recently. Remember when I quoted that IIT grad calling the AI website "smooth and intuitive" ? The recent redesign has been a smashing success. Clearly you disagree
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I just hit www.airindia.in, and its annoying how often the mouse loses focus while navigating between the header and the nested options!
As to AI being "better" than QF, yet again, I'd disagree. The international hard product (especially the flagship version) is much better on the QF A380's (and being retrofitted to 747s and 330s). On ground experience is extremely competent without having to convince the staff to do their job.
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I just hit www.airindia.in, and its annoying how often the mouse loses focus while navigating between the header and the nested options!
As to AI being "better" than QF, yet again, I'd disagree. The international hard product (especially the flagship version) is much better on the QF A380's (and being retrofitted to 747s and 330s). On ground experience is extremely competent without having to convince the staff to do their job.
Although if you say that AA, IB, or S7 is better than AI, it'll be my turn to ask the question
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1. For example, for a long time there was no "forgot password" feature on the Flying Returns website. They recently put up a "request new password" link, but the link has always been broken.
2. Look at:
http://airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/De...ns.aspx?mid=26
The contact email addresses for station managers in cities like Kathmandu and Dhaka are yahoo.com addresses, not airindia.com addresses. That's extremely bush league in my view.
3. Check out:
http://airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/In...y.aspx?MID=27#
It's pretty bush league (as you can see this is one of my favorite words to describe the AI website) how the menu on the left goes beyond the frame of the page.
One might argue that these are relatively harmless errors. But someone like me loses faith in the actual running of this airline because I perceive the managers to have a similar, constant lack of attention to detail. I would not want to fly an airline like this because the management comes across as generally apathetic and uninterested in their job (which is about providing me with good service, both inside and outside the aircraft).
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Dude, seriously? I know you had a smiley face, so this was said tongue in cheek. But when you yourself think that the AI staff don't do their job (whether incompetence or laziness or whatever), how can we believe that you really are not an AI troll?
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AI staff in my experience have been competent, courteous, and *insert positive adjective that starts with c here*.
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It's a fair apples to apples comparison.
Except, none of what I said was based on an "opinion".
Skybed MkII and the First Class Suite on QF are atleast as good if not better than the hard product in J and F on Air India. The added components of on ground and in-air service delivery makes it even better.
And you'll not find the need to "convince the staff to use their competence to serve the customer than look for their tea break" at any QF station (and this would hold true for any of the airlines that, through this thread, have been named as the benchmark airlines).
I have however flown SQ, CX, QF, VA and DL, to/from/through each of their hubs, and the experience on the ground, in the air, while booking, service delivery/requests has been what I'd expect from a "fantastic" airline.
The only airline that I'd hesitate to book over AI would be DL (and even then the ability to earn FF miles on my program would cause me to lean to DL)
Last edited by SQ421; Mar 10, 2012 at 8:30 am
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Be thankful sir!
I have however flown SQ, CX, QF, VA and DL, to/from/through each of their hubs, and the experience on the ground, in the air, while booking, service delivery/requests has been what I'd expect from a "fantastic" airline.
The only airline that I'd hesitate to book over AI would be DL (and even then the ability to earn FF miles on my program would cause me to lean to DL)
The only airline that I'd hesitate to book over AI would be DL (and even then the ability to earn FF miles on my program would cause me to lean to DL)
#26


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Well I think the website was horrible before and still quite mediocre now. Examples:
1. For example, for a long time there was no "forgot password" feature on the Flying Returns website. They recently put up a "request new password" link, but the link has always been broken.
2. Look at:
http://airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/De...ns.aspx?mid=26
The contact email addresses for station managers in cities like Kathmandu and Dhaka are yahoo.com addresses, not airindia.com addresses. That's extremely bush league in my view.
3. Check out:
http://airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/In...y.aspx?MID=27#
It's pretty bush league (as you can see this is one of my favorite words to describe the AI website) how the menu on the left goes beyond the frame of the page.
One might argue that these are relatively harmless errors. But someone like me loses faith in the actual running of this airline because I perceive the managers to have a similar, constant lack of attention to detail. I would not want to fly an airline like this because the management comes across as generally apathetic and uninterested in their job (which is about providing me with good service, both inside and outside the aircraft).
1. For example, for a long time there was no "forgot password" feature on the Flying Returns website. They recently put up a "request new password" link, but the link has always been broken.
2. Look at:
http://airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/De...ns.aspx?mid=26
The contact email addresses for station managers in cities like Kathmandu and Dhaka are yahoo.com addresses, not airindia.com addresses. That's extremely bush league in my view.
3. Check out:
http://airindia.in/SBCMS/Webpages/In...y.aspx?MID=27#
It's pretty bush league (as you can see this is one of my favorite words to describe the AI website) how the menu on the left goes beyond the frame of the page.
One might argue that these are relatively harmless errors. But someone like me loses faith in the actual running of this airline because I perceive the managers to have a similar, constant lack of attention to detail. I would not want to fly an airline like this because the management comes across as generally apathetic and uninterested in their job (which is about providing me with good service, both inside and outside the aircraft).
However, sometimes the mediocrity is what makes AI's website one of my favorites. How many other websites give the kind of detailed info about interline agreements that AI's does? How many supply engineering drawings instead of seat maps? Sure, it's unprofessional and not quite "world class" - however, it makes this avgeek very happy indeed.
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However, sometimes the mediocrity is what makes AI's website one of my favorites. How many other websites give the kind of detailed info about interline agreements that AI's does? How many supply engineering drawings instead of seat maps? Sure, it's unprofessional and not quite "world class" - however, it makes this avgeek very happy indeed.
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PVDtoDEL in almost 10 years of posting and viewing on FT, I have never once chosen to use the "ignore poster" option to mask posts.
Please please do not make me start now, but these constant "AI is the best thing since sliced bread" posts are getting very tiring. Especially when appearing in every second thread on this forum.
Thanks.
Please please do not make me start now, but these constant "AI is the best thing since sliced bread" posts are getting very tiring. Especially when appearing in every second thread on this forum.
Thanks.
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