Park Hyatt Kyoto REVIEW - MASTER THREAD
Dec 10, 2019, 4:56 am
#482
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The rice at PH Kyoto is much better; cooked in its own individual pot and kept warm. Other than that I would not say that it is necessarily better than PH Tokyo. Set composition can vary, but PH Tokyo had yudofu when we were there, PH Kyoto did not.
Dec 10, 2019, 10:26 am
#483
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Just finished a two-day stay here. As stated before, the hard product stunning and among one of the sleekest hotels i've been to. I did two nights at PH and two nights at Suiran, but PH is just miles ahead of Suiran in terms of decor, no doubt about it. (Though Suiran's location near the Katsura River and Arashiyama give it the better 'environment', IMO).
Japanese Breakfast (which I know is not for everyone) was among the best we've had, definitely better than similar offerings at Suiran or Prince Gallery Tokyo.
We originally had a King Garden room but we switched rooms on the second night to a Twin Deluxe View room (701), which was one of the larger non-suite rooms with a fantastic view of Kyoto. I wouldn't hesitate to take that if you booked a king room and no king upgrades were available on check-in.
I regret doing PH/Suiran instead of PH/Ritz but oh well. We had a walk through the Ritz and were impressed at the decor though I didn't get to see the guestrooms. That being said, Kyoto has had such a massive expansion of luxury hotels in recent years (Ritz, PH, Four Seasons, Aman) that we're all a bit spoiled for choice.
Japanese Breakfast (which I know is not for everyone) was among the best we've had, definitely better than similar offerings at Suiran or Prince Gallery Tokyo.
We originally had a King Garden room but we switched rooms on the second night to a Twin Deluxe View room (701), which was one of the larger non-suite rooms with a fantastic view of Kyoto. I wouldn't hesitate to take that if you booked a king room and no king upgrades were available on check-in.
I regret doing PH/Suiran instead of PH/Ritz but oh well. We had a walk through the Ritz and were impressed at the decor though I didn't get to see the guestrooms. That being said, Kyoto has had such a massive expansion of luxury hotels in recent years (Ritz, PH, Four Seasons, Aman) that we're all a bit spoiled for choice.
Last edited by nexusCFX; Dec 10, 2019 at 10:32 am
Dec 11, 2019, 11:27 am
#484
Join Date: Dec 2019
Programs: Cathay Pacific, Hyatt
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Trying to use TSU
I see a Park Suite for sale during my dates of stay and tried to use my TSU to confirm the upgrade. But Hyatt said they are currently selling the suite only and it is not available for upgrades. Is this normal for all Hyatt hotels or just PH Kyoto? Anybody else have a similar experience.
Dec 11, 2019, 11:28 am
#485
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I see a Park Suite for sale during my dates of stay and tried to use my TSU to confirm the upgrade. But Hyatt said they are currently selling the suite only and it is not available for upgrades. Is this normal for all Hyatt hotels or just PH Kyoto? Anybody else have a similar experience.
Dec 11, 2019, 11:55 am
#486
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I see a Park Suite for sale during my dates of stay and tried to use my TSU to confirm the upgrade. But Hyatt said they are currently selling the suite only and it is not available for upgrades. Is this normal for all Hyatt hotels or just PH Kyoto? Anybody else have a similar experience.
Dec 11, 2019, 9:17 pm
#489
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I see a Park Suite for sale during my dates of stay and tried to use my TSU to confirm the upgrade. But Hyatt said they are currently selling the suite only and it is not available for upgrades. Is this normal for all Hyatt hotels or just PH Kyoto? Anybody else have a similar experience.
Dec 11, 2019, 10:40 pm
#490
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Location: Osaka
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While they may, as many have predicted, disallow TSUs in the future, I think it is very possible that they may continue to honor them, for the following reasons.
1. 4 base suites at a 70-room property is far from scarce; 6% of all rooms/suites are base suites.
2. The rate differential between the base suites and lower category rooms is very small; just 50,000 yen from the standard room and a mere 15,000 yen from the Deluxe View which is the next lower category. At lowest season that is a 63% rate increase from the standard room and just 13% from the Deluxe View. At the highest season the percentage difference decreased to about 25% from the standard room and a mere 6% above the View Deluxe. Contrast this many properties where the rate for a base suite is 2x or 3x that for a standard room.
Of course, if TSUs are being used for all or most of the base suites on a majority of days, they may decide to disallow, but right now it at least looks like they are willing to wait and see how it goes.
Dec 12, 2019, 1:26 am
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Dec 17, 2019, 1:07 pm
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Dec 17, 2019, 2:02 pm
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