Nov 6, 2016, 5:33 am
World of Hyatt [Pre-Launch]
Oct 28, 2016, 4:37 pm
#241
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 20,435
I am not a wealthy individual; I teach English and humanities at a university, and I would be embarrassed posting how little I make per year. I know I am not going to bring in massive revenue for Hyatt. However, I should be exactly the kind of traveler Hyatt would want to attract:
1. I spend a huge proportion of my disposable income on travel
2. I travel only within the US
3. I almost only (98% of the time) travel to cities with Hyatts
4. Heck, I plan most of my travel around Hyatt properties
Shouldn't Hyatt want to encourage this travel pattern as much as humanly possible?
1. I spend a huge proportion of my disposable income on travel
2. I travel only within the US
3. I almost only (98% of the time) travel to cities with Hyatts
4. Heck, I plan most of my travel around Hyatt properties
Shouldn't Hyatt want to encourage this travel pattern as much as humanly possible?
Just burn through your points, enjoy 2017, and find something else to do from 2018 onwards.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:38 pm
#242
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Washington DC and Denver CO
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy Titanium/LT Gold
Posts: 379
So confused.
So as a diamond who normally does about 35 nights 25 stays a year, this is lousy for me.
What I don't get is where I stand this year. I'm at 21 stays / 29 nights. Should I even try re qualifying for Diamond, or is the cutoff at time of announcement? It's clear as mud as to whether I can even requal for diamond prior to EOY and get Globalist for 2017. Does anyone know?
Also just got the card - to multiply some points and try and hold on to Platinum. Boy do I feel taken - only getting entry tier.. Completely considering cancelling the card before I even use it and going full Marriott next year.
What I don't get is where I stand this year. I'm at 21 stays / 29 nights. Should I even try re qualifying for Diamond, or is the cutoff at time of announcement? It's clear as mud as to whether I can even requal for diamond prior to EOY and get Globalist for 2017. Does anyone know?
Also just got the card - to multiply some points and try and hold on to Platinum. Boy do I feel taken - only getting entry tier.. Completely considering cancelling the card before I even use it and going full Marriott next year.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:42 pm
#243
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,638
Just watched the video. So how exactly does WoH revolve around me?
Oct 28, 2016, 4:42 pm
#244
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: AA Gold . Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Platinum.
Posts: 486
well, since they also pay for 300 bucks (IIRC) worth of airline/flight expenses... you're really only out 150. If you've also had them pay for your global entry/whatnot thats another 100 off the top. You're basically getting gold for free-ish.
I had the old one - not the new one.
The map for these 3-500/yr black cards isnt too bad if you're actually traveling.
I had the old one - not the new one.
The map for these 3-500/yr black cards isnt too bad if you're actually traveling.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:45 pm
#245
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Sacramento, CA
Programs: AA Exec Plat, Hyatt,Marriott,BA,AS
Posts: 4,425
Does anyone know if the Lifetime status will be retained? I know that exisiting lifetime Diamonds will be Lifetime Globalists, but if I achieve the 1 million base points next year (I am very close), will I get Lifetime Globalist.
Also, I read in the program terms that the 4 suite upgrades (DSU's) will not be given annually to anyone with multiple year status - does that mean Lifetime Globalists don't get 4 DSU's each year in the future?
Also, I read in the program terms that the 4 suite upgrades (DSU's) will not be given annually to anyone with multiple year status - does that mean Lifetime Globalists don't get 4 DSU's each year in the future?
Oct 28, 2016, 4:46 pm
#246
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Mountain Time Zone
Programs: AS Million Miler/Marriott Lifetime Titanium/ IGH Ambassador
Posts: 5,990
As far as crowds go if for example you visit a RC at a resort you will din as many as 50% people getting in are from their rate, especially Asian travelers they sell the RC access blended into their rate. The food and beverage offering has slimmed down the past two years, if one has Marriott access their clubrooms offer far superior service and offering. Example hot breakfast eggs and bacon.
I enjoy Lifetime Marriott PLT so I have options. But I would not be surprised if this program was tweaked a bit.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:48 pm
#247
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 20,435
So as a diamond who normally does about 35 nights 25 stays a year, this is lousy for me.
What I don't get is where I stand this year. I'm at 21 stays / 29 nights. Should I even try re qualifying for Diamond, or is the cutoff at time of announcement? It's clear as mud as to whether I can even requal for diamond prior to EOY and get Globalist for 2017. Does anyone know?
Also just got the card - to multiply some points and try and hold on to Platinum. Boy do I feel taken - only getting entry tier.. Completely considering cancelling the card before I even use it and going full Marriott next year.
What I don't get is where I stand this year. I'm at 21 stays / 29 nights. Should I even try re qualifying for Diamond, or is the cutoff at time of announcement? It's clear as mud as to whether I can even requal for diamond prior to EOY and get Globalist for 2017. Does anyone know?
Also just got the card - to multiply some points and try and hold on to Platinum. Boy do I feel taken - only getting entry tier.. Completely considering cancelling the card before I even use it and going full Marriott next year.
If you do not, because you are currently Diamond, you will soft land to Explorist status from March 1, 2017 through February 28, 2018.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:49 pm
#248
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 20,435
By the way, is "soft-landing" a one time deal, or a permanent part of World of Hyatt going forward?
Oct 28, 2016, 4:51 pm
#249
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
Posts: 8,527
Oct 28, 2016, 4:51 pm
#250
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Harrisburg, PA / Savannah, GA (when home!)
Programs: DL-Diamond; UA-Silver (moan); Hilton-DIA; Marriott-PPE; IHG-Plat; NC-Exec Elite
Posts: 553
Shortly after earning Hilton Lifetime Diamond status, I moved a fair amount of my stays to Hyatt several years ago and have been a Diamond member with you each year. This new program, while awarding your most frequent, loyal and profitable guests (top 1%-3%?), penalizes the masses. For a hotel company whose geographical footprint is vastly overshadowed by its primary competitors by a factor of five, this decision is a head scratcher for me. There's no question Hyatt is a premium brand, but the space you aspire to compete in with this program is much better suited for your Park Hyatt and Andaz brands. I'm certain the powers that be concluded this was the best move.
Sour taste for once from Hyatt. Guess I will be resigned to using my accumulated 600k+ points as a non-elite, and shifting stays to Hilton and Marriott/SPG
Oct 28, 2016, 4:52 pm
#251
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: MD/DC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Titanium, TK Gold
Posts: 1,536
well, since they also pay for 300 bucks (IIRC) worth of airline/flight expenses... you're really only out 150. If you've also had them pay for your global entry/whatnot thats another 100 off the top. You're basically getting gold for free-ish.
I had the old one - not the new one.
The map for these 3-500/yr black cards isnt too bad if you're actually traveling.
I had the old one - not the new one.
The map for these 3-500/yr black cards isnt too bad if you're actually traveling.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:53 pm
#252
Join Date: Feb 2005
Programs: Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, Hyatt Globlist, Hilton Silver, Amtrak Select Plus, UA Silver
Posts: 2,025
51 of my 63 nights this year had the 1W bonus... and I am not even including the 500 web booking bonus I am now earning (11K so far). I for one is losing lots.
I may get to 60 by Dec....
Oct 28, 2016, 4:53 pm
#253
Join Date: Apr 2013
Posts: 275
Well, thanks Hyatt. This announcement just saved me a bunch of time planning for Q1 trips. The limited property @Hyatt was worrisome but with this it's no brainer to continue with SPG for next year at least.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:54 pm
#254
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Washington DC and Denver CO
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy Titanium/LT Gold
Posts: 379
Is anyone aware of the card can be "converted" to another Chase card, such as the Marriott?
Looks like 2017 will be all point-burning and my last year as a Hyatt loyalist.
Oct 28, 2016, 4:54 pm
#255
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,455
I can understand some folks' frustrations with the changes. And possibly I just don't understand the current Gold Passport program well enough. But isn't the new program good for mid-tiers in that the new Explorists (oh, those new category titles 
) will get the following better benefits than current Platinums:
1. Lounge access for four stays and up to 28 nights per year, including award stays.
2. Subject to availability, guaranteed upgrades to the best available room, short of suites/club level.
Or am I missing something?
) will get the following better benefits than current Platinums:1. Lounge access for four stays and up to 28 nights per year, including award stays.
2. Subject to availability, guaranteed upgrades to the best available room, short of suites/club level.
Or am I missing something?
Moreover, with no breakfast benefit, the new Hyatt mid-tier is weaker than either Hilton or Marriott. Hilton and Marriott Golds nearly always get lounge access as well.