Hyatt Gold Passport Targeted Offers terms and Conditions Update
#31
Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: Continental Onepass, Hilton, Marriott, USAir and now UA
Posts: 6,442
I am no danger to any Hyatt elite
The real fact of the matter is that as a top elite to 3 different hotel programs, I find that there is remarkably little benefit for elites to most. Priority Club is truely minimal (if I am lucky they will give me a $5 coupon for breakfast ). Marriott gives you bupkis unless it is a FS establishment and you are there on the week-day to use the concierge lounge. On week-end stays, it's nada. I have begged for something from the front desk and on occasion they will give me a coupon for breakfast, but that is a coin-toss. CY will not even give me breakfast as a Diamond.
The only group that gives me anything is Hilton. No matter where I stay, I at least am given breakfast even if the lounge is closed. Nice benny for a Diamond .
At least at Hyatt, they gave me, Mr Dirt, a buy up option of a nicer room with breakfast for about $6 more. Considering the cheapo reservation was almost $150, adding 4% onto the bill for a $25 breakfast and a "nicer" room was a no-brainer. And I didn't even have to be an elite.
In summary, I don't think any elite program is all that great EXCEPT for the points which give me free nights in Rome and other exotic locales. And being a top elite allows you to accumulate those points faster. All the other stuff is really lip gloss for the pig.
#32
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 613
The factors that drive my stays are: 1. getting the best quality of hotel for the price, and 2. the quality of the current promos.
But I'm sure most of you will agree, in spite of all the pr snafus, all Hyatt has to do is announce a Q4 FFN and almost all of us will be right back to Hyatt for as many stays as possible.
#33
Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 178
Except that the target demographic in this case is infrequent customers. Frequent customers simply do not meet the criteria. Sure it would be nice if there was something for Diamonds but Hyatt wants to focus their efforts elsewhere at the moment. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I think Hyatt's generosity has come back to hurt them. The practice of giving a little something extra to Diamond members has caused some members to expect those types of perks. I fear that the more people complain when they're not included or if things aren't up to certain standards, the more Hyatt will likely stop giving Diamonds any extra benefits.
I think Hyatt's generosity has come back to hurt them. The practice of giving a little something extra to Diamond members has caused some members to expect those types of perks. I fear that the more people complain when they're not included or if things aren't up to certain standards, the more Hyatt will likely stop giving Diamonds any extra benefits.
#34
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern California
Posts: 40
#36
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
I still don't know of what you speak in this thread or that one.
The issue isn't one of having a difference of opinions. The difference is one of a post making a personalized claim without a basis in fact.
Customers were able to register for this specific promotion even when not receiving the email. Whether or not entitled to the points from the promotion under the original terms and conditions and/or the revised ones may be considered somewhat differently.
While this situations costs me nothing and gains me nothing -- I have no paid stays with Hyatt planned for during the rest of a packed quarter -- it would be nice if Hyatt fixes the way it handles promotion registration so that those not targeted for targeted promotions don't get a promotion registration confirmation from Hyatt. It helps to better manage customer expectations without the PR snafu aspect potential.
Originally Posted by LIH Prem
So, what would a reasonable person conclude from that and that little statement that you see when you try to register for it?
Despite that ... it's ok if we have a difference of opinion. Really, it is.
-David
Despite that ... it's ok if we have a difference of opinion. Really, it is.
-David
While this situations costs me nothing and gains me nothing -- I have no paid stays with Hyatt planned for during the rest of a packed quarter -- it would be nice if Hyatt fixes the way it handles promotion registration so that those not targeted for targeted promotions don't get a promotion registration confirmation from Hyatt. It helps to better manage customer expectations without the PR snafu aspect potential.
Last edited by GUWonder; Aug 9, 2011 at 11:24 am
#37
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NY
Programs: AA EXP / 2MM, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 143
Yeah, it's not a nice feeling to know that there is a Hyatt promotion out there, but yet i'm not "targeted" to participate. In the past few months, like many others, i have also taken my stays to SPG due to their FFN promo. I was hoping to come back to Hyatt in Q3 and Q4 in order to re-qualify Diamond, but given that Hyatt is not "targeting" my business, perhaps i should also think twice.
Besides, Diamonds get a lot of other perks, for which I am grateful.
Except that the target demographic in this case is infrequent customers. Frequent customers simply do not meet the criteria. Sure it would be nice if there was something for Diamonds but Hyatt wants to focus their efforts elsewhere at the moment. I don't see anything wrong with that.
I think Hyatt's generosity has come back to hurt them. The practice of giving a little something extra to Diamond members has caused some members to expect those types of perks. I fear that the more people complain when they're not included or if things aren't up to certain standards, the more Hyatt will likely stop giving Diamonds any extra benefits.
I think Hyatt's generosity has come back to hurt them. The practice of giving a little something extra to Diamond members has caused some members to expect those types of perks. I fear that the more people complain when they're not included or if things aren't up to certain standards, the more Hyatt will likely stop giving Diamonds any extra benefits.
#38
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: MIAmi
Programs: US air -chairman, SPG-Plat, Hyatt - Dmnd, Hilton -Dmnd, Hertz - five star
Posts: 346
I think Hyatt's generosity has come back to hurt them. The practice of giving a little something extra to Diamond members has caused some members to expect those types of perks. I fear that the more people complain when they're not included or if things aren't up to certain standards, the more Hyatt will likely stop giving Diamonds any extra benefits.
#39
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern California
Posts: 40
I can't believe I'm writing this because my Hyatt loyalty has been unfaltering in past years but I'm starting to agree more with user Smilee and his/her? choice of thread title: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt...-lame-now.html
#40
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
Posts: 9,950
Well, I've stayed at Hyatt less this year (thanks to Hilton's immediate Gold, plus three- or four-stays-to-Gold-until-3/2013 promos -- "free" food and wifi and room upgrades). But I haven't been targeted by Gold Passport.
#41
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Upcountry Maui, HI
Posts: 13,311
The thread about this promo, that you posted in:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt...9-30-11-a.html
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I disagree. There's no question about the first line in the t&cs saying it's a targeted promo and the registration page saying no points for you if you aren't targeted.
I also agree that it would be better if you weren't able to register for a promotion for which you aren't entitled to get, but their t&cs and reminder on the registration page covers that, IMO. Yes, it would be better, but for whatever reason, they don't do that yet.
That leaves the word "or" in that one line, which is I guess what you are questioning? I think it's immaterial. Apparently you don't.
I think it's ok if we have a difference of opinion about any of those items.
Anyway, that's all from me. We're just rehashing what we already said.
-David
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hyatt...9-30-11-a.html
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The issue isn't one of having a difference of opinions. The difference is one of a post making a personalized claim without a basis in fact.
I also agree that it would be better if you weren't able to register for a promotion for which you aren't entitled to get, but their t&cs and reminder on the registration page covers that, IMO. Yes, it would be better, but for whatever reason, they don't do that yet.
That leaves the word "or" in that one line, which is I guess what you are questioning? I think it's immaterial. Apparently you don't.
I think it's ok if we have a difference of opinion about any of those items.
Anyway, that's all from me. We're just rehashing what we already said.
-David
Last edited by LIH Prem; Aug 9, 2011 at 4:57 pm
#42
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Ashiya_JP
Programs: Hyatt_DIA, ANA_DIA
Posts: 66
Fine with me
A few weeks ago, some enhancement for Diamond membership was introduced. Now the company wants to channel those who were not so loyal to Hyatts. They have freedom to play around marketing tools to leverage their business. On the other hand, for Diamond members, this promo may not be perceived as sufficient caluse to divert their loyalty to somewhere else. The best way to get most from Hyatt is to establish good relationship with personnel at the property on top of general perks associated with the membership.
#43
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,578
yes, we do expect, and rightfully so. those little extras are supposed to be our reward for choosing to stay with Hyatt and give business to them, instead of, say, book it on priceline for 1/3rd of the price. I think, for paying other 2/3rds we can expect the lounge with crappy food and suites when they're not sold anyway.
#44
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVPG, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 983
I've started double booking all my future stays at Hyatt and SPG - I'll go with which ever has the better promo. And since Hyatt got rid of the G-bonuses and didn’t offer me the targeted promo, it’ll take a very good Q4 promo to keep my roughly 20 stays the rest of this year with Hyatt (and has already meant 2 or 3 weeks of stays that I've cancelled at Hyatts in June/July). Since many of my stays are shorter stays, the loss of the G-bonuses is a huge change to my personal loyalty equation, cutting my points earned on some stays in half.
The factors that drive my stays are: 1. getting the best quality of hotel for the price, and 2. the quality of the current promos.
But I'm sure most of you will agree, in spite of all the pr snafus, all Hyatt has to do is announce a Q4 FFN and almost all of us will be right back to Hyatt for as many stays as possible.
The factors that drive my stays are: 1. getting the best quality of hotel for the price, and 2. the quality of the current promos.
But I'm sure most of you will agree, in spite of all the pr snafus, all Hyatt has to do is announce a Q4 FFN and almost all of us will be right back to Hyatt for as many stays as possible.
Just double booked my next 4 Hyatt stay cities with Hilton / SPG.
Calendar reminders are created for the cancellations
#45
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,578
I've started double booking all my future stays at Hyatt and SPG - I'll go with which ever has the better promo. And since Hyatt got rid of the G-bonuses and didn’t offer me the targeted promo, it’ll take a very good Q4 promo to keep my roughly 20 stays the rest of this year with Hyatt (and has already meant 2 or 3 weeks of stays that I've cancelled at Hyatts in June/July). Since many of my stays are shorter stays, the loss of the G-bonuses is a huge change to my personal loyalty equation, cutting my points earned on some stays in half.
The factors that drive my stays are: 1. getting the best quality of hotel for the price, and 2. the quality of the current promos.
But I'm sure most of you will agree, in spite of all the pr snafus, all Hyatt has to do is announce a Q4 FFN and almost all of us will be right back to Hyatt for as many stays as possible.
The factors that drive my stays are: 1. getting the best quality of hotel for the price, and 2. the quality of the current promos.
But I'm sure most of you will agree, in spite of all the pr snafus, all Hyatt has to do is announce a Q4 FFN and almost all of us will be right back to Hyatt for as many stays as possible.